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How about "where they talk about percussion guns exclusively"... :wink:
 
When a PC/HC question is posed, some are qualified to answer and some are not and if someone doesn't know the answer, then he shouldn't post. Trying to "convert" the poster to build it "any which way he likes" doesn't answer the PC/HC query. Personally, I don't give a "rats behind" how people build MLers and I also don't preach how to build 'em....my individual LRs are built w/ certain "schools" in mind and aren't a "hodgepodge" of parts, but if someone chooses to build nondescript MLers, that's their choice and it shouldn't be criticized....Fred
 
Well put Fred. I think even the most obtuse individual should be able to grasp that. Several of us have tried different ways of getting that message across with little success. Hope this ends the discussion once and for all!
 
Naaaaaah...........there'll always be someone who'll start it up all over again. But it's good to see people starting to agree with one another. At least, till next time. :rotf:
 
on the HC/PC question...what kind of guns got preserved? The man with money bought the fancy gun...the farmer bought what he could afford. The fancy went in the attic of the mansion when the rich man went to the newest style..got found and made the books...the affordable got stuck in the barn because it was wore out...the barn fell down because the land got played out and the poor man moved on. Plain iron furniture and no coin silver was the majority because poor people couldn't afford the fancy. It's got to look like this is short sighted, ethnocentric and elitist.

Did you ever really look at the junk in the local museum...not the Smithsonian...the little county one. I was an archaeologist for the Museum of the Rockies and the State of Montana for 14 years. The junk in the little museum is just that...old worn out junk...the good stuff all got shipped out or sold to a fancy collector.
 
Hairy said:
on the HC/PC question...what kind of guns got preserved? The man with money bought the fancy gun...the farmer bought what he could afford. The fancy went in the attic of the mansion when the rich man went to the newest style..got found and made the books...the affordable got stuck in the barn because it was wore out...the barn fell down because the land got played out and the poor man moved on. Plain iron furniture and no coin silver was the majority because poor people couldn't afford the fancy. It's got to look like this is short sighted, ethnocentric and elitist.

Did you ever really look at the junk in the local museum...not the Smithsonian...the little county one. I was an archaeologist for the Museum of the Rockies and the State of Montana for 14 years. The junk in the little museum is just that...old worn out junk...the good stuff all got shipped out or sold to a fancy collector.

Now there you go speaking logic and common sense. There is no reason to cloud the issue with facts! :haha:
 
Hairy said:
on the HC/PC question...what kind of guns got preserved? The man with money bought the fancy gun...the farmer bought what he could afford. The fancy went in the attic of the mansion when the rich man went to the newest style..got found and made the books...the affordable got stuck in the barn because it was wore out...the barn fell down because the land got played out and the poor man moved on. Plain iron furniture and no coin silver was the majority because poor people couldn't afford the fancy. It's got to look like this is short sighted, ethnocentric and elitist.

Did you ever really look at the junk in the local museum...not the Smithsonian...the little county one. I was an archaeologist for the Museum of the Rockies and the State of Montana for 14 years. The junk in the little museum is just that...old worn out junk...the good stuff all got shipped out or sold to a fancy collector.
Then please explain why there are so many surviving plain Jane iron mounted rifles from TN, WV, VA, NC, SC, KY and other places? Lots of plain guns survived, they just don't get published as collectors don't find them as interesting as the carved and inlayed rifles.
 
tg said:
I guess my point is if some one ASKS about whether something is PC/HC or not on a gun he is building, why would another say that it doesn't matter, build it like you want, this happens almost every time someone asks for PC/HC factor guidence on gunbuilding/purchasing.

TG,

I would say, that if people are going to take the time and effort, they would rather have it more PC than not.

Of course people come out of the walls, but that is part of the fun :grin:
 
Dang....didn't mean to stir the pot...well :stir: heck...maybe I did. The thing is...IF you look hard enough you can find an historical that looks just like what you built. It might not have been built in the US, but someone built one 150 years ago and I know there's been some found here 'cause I've seen 'em in museums...not the Smith...but the museum in Cutbank,MT or Greenville,TN or Chugwater,WY or in a private collection I got to look at because of my job (archaeologist) or the little Museum we stopped at on the way to PodunkCorner. The left handed righteyed backaction percussion rifle I built for my son wasn't authentic until I found one in an old book. If some cripple needed a gun...some smith would build him one to fit...and they weren't pretty!!!
 
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