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Phone call to Cabela's - "do you have any Ballistol?" Response - "what is that?" I explained including the color of the can. "I will go look." 3-4 minute wait. "Yes we have it." I drove the 35 minutes to Cabela's. Spent 5-6 minutes looking for the Ballistol. I asked one of the floor employees - "can you tell me where the Ballistol is located?" Response - "what is that?" I explained what it was and also told him I had called to confirm that they had Ballistol in stock and was assured they had it in stock. After walking around with the floor employee for another few minutes he went and asked someone else, who is suppose to know lots more, where the Ballistol was. Response - "what is that?" I again explained what it was and that I had called to confirm that they have Ballistol in stock on the shelf. Again after walking around with him for another few minutes he goes and asked someone else, who is suppose to know more than he does, where the Ballistol was. Response - "well if you have looked over here or over there we don't have any. We usually don't stock Ballistol so it is likely we don't have any, in fact I can't remember the last time we had any."
The Kansas City store did the exact same thing to me with BP. Called ahead, clerk on the other end said yep, we got 2F and 3F. Drove 85 miles to find Pyrodex, a snotty sales clerk and a manager that ran away when I wanted to talk to him.
 
My MLs will eat Pyrodex and they'll like it.
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When they sold to Bass Pro I was out, mirror shadow of there former self .
Had a whole rant about Bass Pro employees at Grapevine, TX awhile back, tried to get them to order an 1851 Pietta and they said that they couldn't and wouldn't even look and said that they couldn't even look up to see if another store had one available to be shipped when I had seen it done at the Bossier City store. They even told me that it wasn't possible to do what I saw done in front of my very own two lying eyes.
 
For years, at every opportunity I have purchased ammo (a tin of caps, pound of powder, etc ) whether I “needed” it or not. I buy it so I am well stocked regardless of the situation. I do not sell it. I am always well stocked and have never paid scalper prices.
Now, for those of you angry at others who sell items at scalper prices - you shouldn’t be in that situation, you have only yourselves to blame.
That practice has been mine throughout my adult life. And it has served me well.
 
The local Walmart carries a pretty good selection of muzzleloader supplies …including #11 caps!! I managed to pick a couple of tins last summer. Suddenly, about the first of September, the supply dried up. Ask the guy at the counter what happened. He said they had a two tin limit on them for a long time and somebody raised Hell about that and they took it off. Now, they have some azzhat who time the trucks and buys their whole supply before they even stock the shelves. Same guy every time.

Ya’ picks your poison!
 
We had the same issue at the local Walmart when .22 ammo was scarce. A couple of guys were there waiting when the time came to stock the shelves. They took everything that rolled out onto the floor before it even hit the shelves. I do strongly support the stores limiting the number of an item a person can buy so that everyone gets a chance to get some. This isn't a case of someone just buying a year's supply, it goes way beyond that.
 
Hawkeye,
I understand the OP’s point of view - but - the reason that Cabelas had the powder in the first place was because they were able to purchase enough at one time to make it worth the manufacture‘s time to produce it. How they distribute the product is up to them.
I have worked on both sides of the large box store vs Ma and Pa shops and volume has its advantages.

Free market capitalism has many faces.
 
I have a friend who has a basement full of ammunition. He is "prepared" for the attack that he is sure will come [from U.S. Army]. He also has more than 10 military style rifles. I once asked him how many he could shoot at one time. He got a very blank look on his face and changed the subject. He lives waaaaay out in a forested area. He could probably sell you 20K rounds of several different calibers. :rolleyes: :horseback:
Rat! Dont b a rat. Biden depend,s on you...
 
Cabelas, BassPro and hoarders. What an unlikely partnership. Personally used to order from Cabelas on a regular basis. They stood behind their brand labeled products and I was impressed back in the day. I would visit the ‘local’ BassPro when the bride wanted to visit the mall where they were an anchor store. Didn’t buy much, but got plenty of steps in. Today I couldn’t tell you the last time I made a purchase from either. Changing times.

Also losing faith in ‘ma and pop’ stores. In the past you could usually get blackpowder (and other items) at the LGS in NC, though maybe priced a bit high. Never had a problem giving them my money. Place around the corner used to carry Goex when it was available, though not much. Asked if they could get Swiss for me and they suggested I go online and buy it. They were pretty much shocked when they found I out I ordered 25 pounds. Claimed they couldn’t sell that much powder in a year. I understand completely that they must stock and sell what their customers want, and realistically, supplies for traditional muzzleloaders are not hot sellers. Just an observation of the current situation.
 
Cabelas, BassPro and hoarders. What an unlikely partnership. Personally used to order from Cabelas on a regular basis. They stood behind their brand labeled products and I was impressed back in the day. I would visit the ‘local’ BassPro when the bride wanted to visit the mall where they were an anchor store. Didn’t buy much, but got plenty of steps in. Today I couldn’t tell you the last time I made a purchase from either. Changing times.

Also losing faith in ‘ma and pop’ stores. In the past you could usually get blackpowder (and other items) at the LGS in NC, though maybe priced a bit high. Never had a problem giving them my money. Place around the corner used to carry Goex when it was available, though not much. Asked if they could get Swiss for me and they suggested I go online and buy it. They were pretty much shocked when they found I out I ordered 25 pounds. Claimed they couldn’t sell that much powder in a year. I understand completely that they must stock and sell what their customers want, and realistically, supplies for traditional muzzleloaders are not hot sellers. Just an observation of the current situation.
The current situation is changing faster than I can. Of that I’m sure.
 
I don't really understand the hate. They carried what you want. They priced it below the competition. They limited how many one shopper can buy at one time in order to serve more of their customers. They were honest and consistent with their policy. If you like it - buy it. If you don't - don't. I just don't understand the anger and hate.
 
I have a friend who has a basement full of ammunition. He is "prepared" for the attack that he is sure will come [from U.S. Army]. He also has more than 10 military style rifles. I once asked him how many he could shoot at one time. He got a very blank look on his face and changed the subject. He lives waaaaay out in a forested area. He could probably sell you 20K rounds of several different calibers. :rolleyes: :horseback:
I laugh at guys like this. If things get that bad, he'll just get taken out by a drone strike or police robotic device, or some farmer with a .30-30 will shoot him for trespassing.

I had a neighbor who was convinced that all was going to collapse during the Y2K scare. He is probably still eating MRE's and Vienna Sausages....
 
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Don't have a Cabela's near me, but do have a Bass Pro. I have their credit card (for the points) and stop there once in a while to check ammo stock and pick up a few supplies. I bought a new Henry 22 there a few months back when nobody else in my region had one in stock. I take it for what it is...a big box store. Not sure what is woke about it. Still the coolest shop in the large crummy mall that it's attached to.

As to the limits on powders, primers, and formerly ammo, seems like it is a way to try and ensure more folks can get hands on the supplies they need in a time of shortages. Just my two cents.
Was in the Bass Pro you are talking about (Ann Arundel mall?) just two days ago. I went to the firearms counter (a very long counter) and looked for someone to help me while there were customers standing all along the counter but standing back from the counter just waiting. I asked a customer what everyone was standing around for and one said “waiting for a delivery” (meaning a rifle). I finally drew the attention of a manager and I asked him where the black powder guy was, and he pointed to a guy going through paperwork enlivening a rifle (it was obvious he was going to be awhile, so the manage pointed to the far end of the counter and said “or you go see that guy down there (the entire depth of the store). I was halfway down the counter and the first guy spoke up finally and asked me what I needed, and my inquiry continued. A pretty sorry state of customer support affairs.
 
Was in the Bass Pro you are talking about (Ann Arundel mall?) just two days ago. I went to the firearms counter (a very long counter) and looked for someone to help me while there were customers standing all along the counter but standing back from the counter just waiting. I asked a customer what everyone was standing around for and one said “waiting for a delivery” (meaning a rifle). I finally drew the attention of a manager and I asked him where the black powder guy was, and he pointed to a guy going through paperwork enlivening a rifle (it was obvious he was going to be awhile, so the manage pointed to the far end of the counter and said “or you go see that guy down there (the entire depth of the store). I was halfway down the counter and the first guy spoke up finally and asked me what I needed, and my inquiry continued. A pretty sorry state of customer support affairs.
Yup. It's a big box store. Customer service is limited. Like going into Best Buy and expecting a true AV expert to be around to help you.
 
Y'know, I get irritated with store policies... at Cabella's as well as other places. Thing is though, while nobody else has much of anything in stock right now for muzzleloaders, the local Cabella's had nearly everything I was looking for. Thing I didn't like was the prices! More than forty bucks for a pound of T-7?! Really? I am not happy. Ready for the "Great Reset", whatever that turns out to be.

Still got a horn full of T7, a pound of Pyrodex and about 2 1/2 pounds of Old Eynsford. That's enough to last until Goex goes back into production and I can order ten pounds of Old Eynsford for less money per pound than T7 seems to be going for.
You don't want the "Great Reset" to happen. I read, should this happen, the government will forgive all of your debt. However, to get that you have to surrender all of your personal belongings to the government. They will then decide what you need, where you will live and even if you live. They promise financial freedom but, they will own everything about you, even your life and limb.
 
Failure to plan for shortages which happens every few years is not the fault of the dealer.


Yep, many muzzleloader shooters/hunters were not prepared for the "Obama will take our muzzleloaders " panic. In the middle of that panic i found a gun store in Oklahoma that had hundreds of thousands of #11 caps at $2.99/hundred. Put others on these boards onto that store and they sold out of all things muzzleloader.

One would have assumed that muzzleloader shooters/hunters would have learned from that panic and stocked up, sadly they did not.

The government had nothing to do with the ongoing muzzleloader stuff panic.
 
You don't want the "Great Reset" to happen. I read, should this happen, the government will forgive all of your debt. However, to get that you have to surrender all of your personal belongings to the government. They will then decide what you need, where you will live and even if you live. They promise financial freedom but, they will own everything about you, even your life and limb.
Well, nobody really knows what the "Great Reset" will be. There is going to be a civil war, and what happens after that is anybody's guess. I'd like to go back to the 1920's as far as law is concerned. As far as I can see, every law passed after about 1929 should be repealed. That would by my "Great Reset".
 
Well, nobody really knows what the "Great Reset" will be. There is going to be a civil war, and what happens after that is anybody's guess. I'd like to go back to the 1920's as far as law is concerned. As far as I can see, every law passed after about 1929 should be repealed. That would by my "Great Reset".
WEF leader Klaus Schwab is author of “The Great Reset”, available on Amazon.
 
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