Cabelas NEW gun policy

[lonewolf172]

Does anyone know how this new policy for black powder firearms works? They claim it's just for their records.

 

[deermanok]

Haven't heard about it yet.

 

[Tallswife]

Does anyone know how this new policy for black powder firearms works? They claim it's just for their records.

Can you share what this new policy is? I have not heard or seen anything about it.

 

[Sam squanch]

Let me guess- 3 day background check like modern firearms? Or turning the purchase over to ATF?

 

[lonewolf172]

Does anyone know how this new policy for black powder firearms works? They claim it's just for their records.

I should have added that the associate at my cabelas in Indiana did say that this new policy was just in Indiana and supposedly just for the stores records. IF, GOD forbid, there's a government gun confiscation it's just another way they can get even black powder firearms.

 

[azmntman]

No one knows. Your the only one that knows there even is a policy. Whats the policy?

 

[Sam squanch]

Instead of the government having a gun registration list( that’s Illegal) the store is doing it. Remember the secret meeting Obama had with the big box stores, with no press allowed? I think that was the topic. Do this for us, and we will do things for you.

 

[Old Hawkeye]

Let me guess- 3 day background check like modern firearms? Or turning the purchase over to ATF?

No one is turning "the purchase" over to the ATF because that is against the law. The government doesn't have a list of the firearms any individual owns.

 

[Old Hawkeye]

The misinformation & fear mongering starts before we even know what the "policy" is. I never cease to be amazed at how many gun owners are so ignorant of what the gun laws actually are & how the 4473 Form is managed & handled after you fill it out & under what circumstances the government can access any 4473.

 

[sussexmuzllodr]

Trust me. In NJ you know...you have to be an armchair Lawyer to keep up. Forms are required to be kept for 7 years by the Dealer where you brought the Item at. Long guns. Black Powder rifles only require a form of eligibility and the famous NJ yellow card to buy. Forms are retained by the FFL. Pistols on the other hand require a permit for each one.
Copies of such permit being retained by the seller, The FFL, The Local Chief of Police, and The State Police. In other States The Laws are similar depending on The State. Some States require nothing at all.

 

[dogfood]

Trust me. In NJ you know...you have to be an armchair Lawyer to keep up. Forms are required to be kept for 7 years by the Dealer where you brought the Item at.

Pretty sure that's a federal law. Keeping records for seven years is common practice, like with your taxes. Also the same for federal government buying stuff, those records need to be kept for seven years. It's about audits, man.

 

[lonewolf172]

I agree with Sam squanch. It seems like cabelas, at least here in Indiana, are collecting information for the government even though they claim it's just for the store. I'll know more when I going to pick up my ML and if the form seems fishy I'm not going to fill it out and just have them cancel my order.

 

[JHB]

A big chain store is going to create a paperwork trail and not profit on it. I doubt it. There is more to this than meets the eye. The feds or state told them to do this. Now if it is only Indiana this is the states doing. The feds will make all the stores in every state do it. Corporate will also make all stores do it.
The last rifle and powder I picked up at Deer Creek I had to fill out a form he told me it was required by the feds and had to be kept in store like a 4473 no phone calls were made. This was last November.

 

[mushka]

I thought I read and was told many years ago when the 4473 was incepted that the form was to be maintained by the business doing the selling for 30 years, and if the business closed the forms were to be sent somewhere, but I can't remember where they were to be sent.

 

[coloradoclyde]

The last rifle and powder I picked up at Deer Creek I had to fill out a form he told me it was required by the feds and had to be kept in store like a 4473 no phone calls were made. This was last November.

It is required. It falls under 27 CFR 555.
Been that way for some time.

 

[mooman76]

How are we to form an opinion when you won't give us any information on the policy? You've been asked numerous times but never answer. What Is The Policy?

 

[appalichian hunter]

Old Hawkeye, you have to be kidding on the 4473 form it is a government form, it is ATF regulated they all ready have the information. Wake up fellows the boom is being lowered one piece at a time until it is too late, for instance bills in congress that have been voted on and failed over the years keep coming back for another vote. When you go to your local firearms store to buy something the system in the cash register automatically develops and adds up the items you have bought placed in a data base ( your personal purchase history)just for you and the folks who want you guns, something as simple as say targets goes on your list.

 

[JHB]

The 4473 from a closed gun dealer have to be sent to the ATF.

 

[kje54]

I should have added that the associate at my cabelas in Indiana did say that this new policy was just in Indiana and supposedly just for the stores records. IF, GOD forbid, there's a government gun confiscation it's just another way they can get even black powder firearms.

You still haven't stated exactly what the policy is. Of course being a mind reader I already know........ If you believe that I have a large number of bridges for sale..........

 

[coloradoclyde]

How are we to form an opinion when you won't give us any information on the policy? You've been asked numerous times but never answer. What Is The Policy?

https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/online-firearm-purchase-guidelines
This is where Cabela's got themselves into trouble.

"You are only permitted to purchase firearms that are not restricted in the state or jurisdiction where you reside. All firearms must be shipped to a Cabela's location within the state where you reside."

Resulting in this verbiage.

• Orders that contain firearms must be placed by the actual recipient of the firearm(s).

• Purchasers of firearms must be at least 18 years of age, and if the firearm is other than a rifle or shotgun (including frames/receivers, silencers, and pistol grip smooth bore firearms), purchasers must be at least 21 years of age. All purchasers must be a resident of the state where the transfer will occur. Some states have additional age requirements for certain long gun purchases that may require the buyer to be 21 years of age, or older. Examples of those states include, but may not be limited to: Florida, Washington, and Vermont.

• Firearm transfer and use is subject to government regulation. It is your ultimate responsibility to ensure you are in compliance with all rule and regulations that apply to the purchase of firearms and ammunition.