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I have a Pedersoli 12 ga. that I bought used, specifically to hunt turkey's with. It has the screw in's, which do not bother me in the least, ref PC. OTOH, I have a variety of choke tubes, including a set of Remington Xtra full's. Loading is/was a major PIA, so I got a pair if Mossberg IC's to use for loading. Found out after the fact that the IC's worked well enough with my load.
Happy as a clam thereafter.....
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I would post the photo if I only remembered how. Send me an email address and I'l get it right out to you. [email protected]


And as to Paul's post, I agree completely. My fault in assuming that the nipple would be checked for flushness, and the owner made sure that the hammer will properly engage the cap without elaborating.

I can speak to my guns, and they all matched up correctly. But as Paul said, they were checked. Anyway, for the price of a couple of nipples, I replace mine at the beginning of every season. I also carry one spare on my bag.

I originally went to the musket nipple for ease in capping and de-capping in cold weather, and for safety purposes.
 
Rusty, will send an email off shortly. What are the safety reasons for using a musket nipple instead of a standard #11 one?
 
tamara said:
Rusty, will send an email off shortly. What are the safety reasons for using a musket nipple instead of a standard #11 one?


First let me say that with a competent shooter, there is, of course no difference safety wise.

It is just that a musket cap is large with those four flanges on it, so its very easy to put on with out a capper, or remove, fired or not.

With a flick of a finger it can be easily popped off the nipple after it’s fired and I have never seen one hard to remove. They come right off. And since its big, its a whole lot easier to lift a live cap off an unfired barrel while you load reload the fired barrel.

My safety concern is that I have seen people fiddling with a cap trying to get a small #11 in place on a loaded weapon in ways that would make you cringe. They are concentrating so hard on getting that cap on, or getting the capper off the cap once in place, it looked as if it could turn into a real horror story. Muzzles in all directions.

How many times have you seen a shooter remove the live cap from the left barrel, load and prime the right one, then rather than dumping or pocketing that loose cap, once loaded, they will try to get it back on by hand. Small cap, wrong side for a right handed shooter, I have heard of people fully cocking the hammer to get enough room in there for their hand. A bad move, if you ask me.

And you can load and prime a gun with musket caps without removing your gloves. (Mittens don't count)
 
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Here is that Musket Cap Belt Pouch.

If you look closely there is the large flap that covers the pouch. Then a smaller one up near the opening. That one has raw wool affixed to it so that it’s real easy to get your fingers in to withdraw a cap, but the wool covers the opening so caps won't fall out if you load and run forgetting to close it.

(I think I figures this out. If this doesn't work, please excuse me, my friends)
 
Well folks as it happens I have on Saturday just collected on motorcycle a Pedosoli 12g double. I checked the hammers to nipple contacts as Paul suggested and they punch paper fine. A freind of mine who shoots a Pedosoli Mortimer 12g and I went out today, he shot a bolting rabbit and I only managed a close unsuspecting squirrel and I missed an easy rabbit :redface: It was quite hot today and induced a migrain headach for my freind so we made to our camp and cooked lunch and chilled untill he was well enough to make the walk back. We will try again on Tuesday afternoon in another wood that has plenty of squij and crows. He uses a plastic driver and a card + 1 1/4 oz of course shot-4s I think and a bit less than volume for powder.
I do similar but all card wads and lubed with beeswax and olive oil mix, sometimes I will stuff a fibre wad well lubed to clean a heavily fouled barrel.
As we are shooting again on Tuesday and the air is dry of late we just moped the tubes out today and wiped the fouling of the outside with my lube then removed the nipples and coated the threads with lube also.
The triggers are a shade to light on my new aquaintance, I have checked them and there is plenty of engagement so I feel I shall have to up rate their weights, I may have some spare springs some where :hmm:
Any ways I,m making smoke again so I,m happy :thumbsup:
I,ll keep you posted.
 
Rusty: I have owned and used two different cappers in my day: One a straight line, sold by Navy Arms, and the newer one being an oval shaped capper from Tedd Cash products. Both are designed to allow a percussion cap to either fall forward into the opening, or be pushed forward against flat springs to make them available to be placed on the nipple. Once you push the caps down on the nipple with the capper, you simply slide the capper sideways, at 90 degrees to the nipple to remove the capper. Done.

I do not, as a range officer, nor do I personally, put a cap on a nipple with my thumb, or any bare finger. THAT IS DANGEROUS If that cap goes off, your thumb or finger is not going to be very usable for quite a while. I don't see the safety concern. I certainly would never recommend using Musket caps instead of percussion caps for any reason relating to safety. I believe the instructions that come with cappers adequately explain how to use them. Of course, you always will have total morons getting ahold of all kinds of dangerous implements, like matches, and someone does need to watch over them and teach them how to use these things safely. For most of us, this was our parents! And we were about 5 years old, tops when we learned those lessons. I suppose I was a lot older- maybe 12( retarded, you know)- when I got around to learning about handling percussion caps. I attended a civil war demonstration where the shooters were using musket caps, and putting them on the nipples with their bare hands. My father made a point of telling us how dangerous this practice was, and told us to never do it. I didn't need convincing.

If you are shooting a Civil War era rifle or musket that is intended to be used with musket caps, then use them. If you are going to use one of the subs now available as powder, where you need a much higher flash temperature, you have a choice in using either Magnum percussion caps, or musket caps. Either will ignite the subs okay.

Other than those exceptions, there is no need to use anything other than a standard percussion cap. If a #11 is too loose on your nipple, but a #10 is too tight, get a different nipple, or pinch the #11 caps a bit to make them grab the nipple. I always carry a pair of needle nose pliers with me when I am shooting percussion guns. I generally don't need them for my own gun, but have them available to help others. If you know how to use a knife blade correctly, you can pop a stuck cap off the nipple with one short stroke. My percussion guns have a triangular shaped cut in the hammerskirt, in the front, so that on firing, gases that blow back raise the cap off the nipple, and blow the skirt of the cap out and forward, away from my face. This breaks any seal that might otherwise happen, and the caps tend to fall off the nipple as soon as I lift the hammer to half cock, and give the gun a slight jerk or flip to the side.


Using musket caps to increase some kind of safety margin is going at the issue backwards, IMHO.
 
The 10 ga. Pedersoli I bought has fixed chokes, Imp Cyl/Mod, and it handles very well. Feels solid but surprisingly light and agile. 25 yards is the maximum range for a consistent turkey pattern, however. The best load I found;

110 grains 2f Goex
two overpowder cards
1 1/2oz.#5s
one overshot card

Also patterned well with ONE overpowder card and a pre-lubed cushion wad.

Using the first load, I took an eastern with a 10" beard at 18 yards.
 
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