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Cause of My TC New Englander Misfires

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i have New Englander with the shorter barrel i seldom fire. Rifle has been a loaner for years.

Recently at the range the rifle had misfires. It would fire when powder was worked in under the nipple. After cleaning the rifle i noticed a soft sound when the ramrod was dropped into the barrel. Thinking there was a patch in the patent breech chamber, i assembled the patch puller. It required heavy pressure on the rod to engage the thing. Finally pulled out a thin piece of plastic. There was something else down there, after awhile i pulled out the rest of the sabot.

Don't know when or how it got there. A friend killed a deer with the rifle in gun season.

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i have New Englander with the shorter barrel i seldom fire. Rifle has been a loaner for years.

Recently at the range the rifle had misfires. It would fire when powder was worked in under the nipple. After cleaning the rifle i noticed a soft sound when the ramrod was dropped into the barrel. Thinking there was a patch in the patent breech chamber, i assembled the patch puller. It required heavy pressure on the rod to engage the thing. Finally pulled out a thin piece of plastic. There was something else down there, after awhile i pulled out the rest of the sabot.

Don't know when or how it got there. A friend killed a deer with the rifle in gun season.

OVBUEhWm.jpg
Reason number 124 I seldom lend firearms… ;-) crazy. It’s hard to imagine how a person could make the rifle fire with that much blockage. I wonder if your friend tried to load after killing his deer, dry balled, and managed to get the bullet out but not the sabot?
 
only thing i won't loan is my wife. every thing else i figure if it don't come back i have something else to take its place. and i probably won't remember i loaned it anyway. if it comes back its like christmas.

i hate sabot's. have had them separate and jam on loading. never use them anymore.
 
Years ago a friend wanted to borrow my freshly seasoned TC 58 big board to shoot a Red Stag at a ranch in Texas. He never saw the stag so he left my rifle there for a couple months, he finally got the stag and presented me with a rusty ill treated rifle, needless to say I was made, he bought me a new one to make it right. I learned my lesson.
 
only thing i won't loan is my wife. every thing else i figure if it don't come back i have something else to take its place. and i probably won't remember i loaned it anyway. if it comes back its like christmas.

i hate sabot's. have had them separate and jam on loading. never use them anymore.
I used patched 45-70 bullets a few times. They work pretty well that way, but the recoil is nasty with 70gr. or so in a hawken.
 
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