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I have been away from the bench for a while (way too long), but now I want to build another rifle. I would like to copy a Christian Springs school. Does anyone have any Idea where I can find some pictures of some rifles built about 1755 - 1770.

I have pictures of one built by E. Marshal. but would like to see some more examples.

Thank You!
 
Keep an eye out at Track of the Wolf under Flintlocks. They have one on there now & then.
 
They tend to call just about anything "Christians Spring" on Track...

Get Rifles of Colonial America. There's a whole series of guns that are from the Bethlehem/Christians Spring "school".

Marshall was the (supposed) owner of the gun, not the maker. The maker has been variously attributed, but usually it's Andreas Albrecht...as good a guess as any.

Stylistically, the gun could be 1740, even, but I am tending now to think that it is close to 1770.
 
Look here for a 1775 Oerter rifle
great website

The existing examples attributed to CS are step-wristed guns though Albrecht later built in the straight-stocked Lancaster style like Dickert who likely had some CS connections. Maybe someday a straight-stocked CS rifle will turn up signed by Oerter.

Funny thing is I believe it is Christians Spring (plural Christians, single spring) but most of the time you see it as Christian Springs
 
Rich is correct it is "Christians Springs".

My current project is a Christians Springs style rifle based on RCA Vol. 1 no 43, 44 & 45 (44 & 45 signed by Oerter, No. 43 attributed to Oerter) and the Oerter rifle shown on the website mentioned.

The rifle in the website was also featured in the October 2007 (I think) issue of Muzzle Blasts.

The Morivian Historical Society also has a Oerter rifle in there collect. But as far as I know there are no published photos.

As mentinoed Eric Kettenburg's website is a very good source of information on Christians Springs and early Northampton Guns.
 
Take a look at jim chambers website. They have Christian Springs rifle on page 3 I believe. You"ll pay for the kit but from what I've heard about them they are worth the extra$. www.flintlocks.com
 
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The Chambers kit is the Marshall gun- which is unsigned and attributed to Christians Spring (appropriately) and as indicated above, has been variously dated from 1740-1770. There are learned opinions on whether the gun is intact as originally built or a restock done "in period" after a catastrophic break.

I had the good fortune to handle the gun in the early 1980's and favor the idea that it is a restock. I see it as a F&I War period type of rifle- the furniture, lock, barrel profile, etc are all appropriate for 1750's-1760's. It's a beast of a gun in the hand and the differences between it and many 1770's era rifles are black and white. There's no mistaking that this is a Germanic gun in form, not an evolved American longrifle form.

I guess in summary, we early rifle "stitch counters" don't like to lump all Christians Spring rifles together as they span some stylistic variations and a couple decades when the longrifle was rapidly evolving in style. There have been excellent Marshall rifle kits made and so now there are more existing CS rifles than probably ever existed originally, and most of the new ones look exactly the same.
 
:grin: FANTASTIC!!!

These are just what the doctor ordered!!

Thank You ALL!
 
I have not seen the gun in person, but it is MASSIVE, even by German standards.

There is a very good drawing of this gun available.
 

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