:rotf: Tried all the mod con stuff when I first started with B/P now days it's heat the water in an old billy and strip and clean in camp 5mins tops ,if at home it's quicker because of the elec. jug . Had a club member (now passed ) who showered with his ROA to clean it , dropped it on his foot and broke his toe chipped the bath , slipped over and broke his hip , true story he told the ERT and Police that's how he cleaned his gun because his wife wouldn,t let him use the dishwasher , they didn't charge him but made him do a safety course .