Cleaned with water till patches were coming out clean , let them sit a week went back and ran clean patch and this is what it looks like one 45 one 50
Cleaning is this normal
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After cleaning with water I'd follow up with a wd40 patch and then a patch sprayed with barricade. Try that next time you go shooting and then try a clean patch in two weeks.
More information needed. Did you oil the bore after cleaning? If so, with what? Is that a Ballisol can in the picture?
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I’ve had this issue too with my smoothbore.
Patches come out clean but after when I run a patch with wd40 or mink oil I get patches looking like yours but with a glossy sheen. I’m thinking for some reason my patches are picking up lead residue.
Patches come out clean but after when I run a patch with wd40 or mink oil I get patches looking like yours but with a glossy sheen. I’m thinking for some reason my patches are picking up lead residue.
Quite normal if you are not greasing the bore and in fact with mu olive oil and beeswax mix it still can happen but I don't worry about it. No pitting will result from it.
When you cleaned with water was it near boiling? It is vital the barrel is to hot to touch to completely dry it out and the breach . If not you are leaving damp in there irrespective of alcohol or and other substance.
The principle is simple.
Hot water dissolves the combustion salts.
The heat drys out the barrel.
The animal/vegetable is applied to dry warm steel and being non petroleum absorbs readily any remaining salts.
I don't fuss about carbon.
When you cleaned with water was it near boiling? It is vital the barrel is to hot to touch to completely dry it out and the breach . If not you are leaving damp in there irrespective of alcohol or and other substance.
The principle is simple.
Hot water dissolves the combustion salts.
The heat drys out the barrel.
The animal/vegetable is applied to dry warm steel and being non petroleum absorbs readily any remaining salts.
I don't fuss about carbon.
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It’s not good, but I would try some nitro bore cleaner to scrub out the carbon. I tried using Ballistol at one time and got patches like those and rust. I won’t use it again. Others will surely defend the product but it’s the only time I’ve gotten rust.
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It's not rust. It's just what Ballistol does.
Agree 100% with MtnMan.
How? unless you are shooting unpatched ball. Any residue in the barrel is from the powder or your lube. Some lubes (oily or greasy) will deposit a hard glazed coating that sometimes takes a bit of hard scrubbing and more time to get rid of. I clean with detergent and warm water, dry with clean patches and air, then squirt a couple of shots of G96 down the bore, followed by a soft loose patch to spreaad it around evenly. Use that patch to wipe down all of the exterior steel, and store muzzle down; never a rust/crud problem.
Archer 756
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When I cleaned them I ran a patch with Ballistol to preserve, today after theses patches I used a patch with Rem oil ,should I use brake clean or something to clean out the Rem oil and use olive oil?
Thanks for the advice. I don’t patch balls in a smoothie. The over ball wad I use is greased with mink oil so as you suggested this might be causing my residue issue.
Ballistol is fine. Someone mentioned it keeps dissolving whatever crud may be still in the bore or breech, and I think that might be true. 99% of the time I get clean patches, sometimes get one similar to that one you show. I shot Goex for the first time yesterday and cleaned real good when I got home. Checked this morning and very small trace of what you are seeing on the first patch, after that nothing. Bore is shiny and bright as new.
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It's not fouling. Read post #54 in this thread.
https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/ballistol-picking-up-brown-in-bore.129700/page-3
https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/ballistol-picking-up-brown-in-bore.129700/page-3
Sarurday, two days ago I cleaned my barrel till the patches came out clean. After reading this thread a few minutes ago ran a clean patch through it and this is what it looks like. I coated the bore with Hoppes #9 as usual for the last forty years. As long as there's oil in the bore after cleaning I don't worry about it. Never hurts to wait a weak and clean it a second time though.
I use ballistol and get the same "coloring" on my patches. Its nothing to worry about.
Yup.
Glad its normal, thought I was not cleaning it enough
hanshi
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I occasionally get a less than pristine patch when I dry swab the bore a few days or weeks later. Most of the time the patches come out clean. Still I've never had any rust or fouling problems due to this. I finally got to where I didn't bother worrying over it and the bores stayed fine and clean.
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Remoil did make that patch brown. I use Remoil and have never seen it do that. It is a clear oil.
