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pondoro

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I have a CVA Hawken, bought used from a gun store. It shoots fine. When I first bought it there was just a trace of rust present at the first cleaning (patch came out with a brown stain). I cleaned it thoroughly and it was fine for two years or so, then one day the rust was back. I cleaned it like crazy and it was fine for several more years, now the rust has returned. I always clean right away and always clean until the patches come out clean. This "outbreak" is worse than before, I have used like 100 patches and the bronze brush and every reasonable solvent that I can think of. I wait a day and a clean patch comes out with a brown stain. I have used bore butter and I have used firearm (petroleum based) gun oil. Neither seems to stop the rust.

The rust is in the breech end - I can tell this because if I run a patch halfway down, or three-quarters of the way down, the barrel it comes out clean. When I run it all the way to the breech I get the rust.

Any ideas what to do? Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
 
My first question would be, do you store your gun bore up or down. You could try a little naval jelly on a patch left on the breech plug for the prescribed time then clean and oil. I keep my guns butt up so that any moisture or excess oil drains out of the barrel. :m2c:
 
You might want to try some Castor Oil. The stuff at the drug store that works wonders on people who are full of it.

This oil is used in model airplane fuel and some other high performance engines and it seems to protect steel much better than conventional oils.

Stumpkiller did some testing a little over a year ago, and found that steel, coated with black powder fouling and protected with many different kinds of oils (including Olive oil and Bore Butter) would rapidly rust. As I recall, the spot protected with Castor Oil never did really rust.

Hay Stumpy, is my memory failing?
 

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