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Colt 10 gauge revolving shotgun?

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Ike Godsey

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Howdy!

Again there is a interesting gun up for auction here in Germany.

Seller worte its a 10GA Revolving Shotgun(5 Shots) by COLT.

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The stock looks just not right to me.
Any thoughts?

Ike
 
Serial numbers don’t match!

Besides that, the stock looks to be original, but really ”˜bubba’d” or mucked up, however you want to say it. Butt stocks did not have that through-bolt immediately to the rear of the action. And it appears to have been a 2 band sporting version, where perhaps someone cut down the forend. Looks like they added a crude wedge key too. First brass trigger guard I’ve ever seen too, on them.

The gas escaping the forcing cone is what doomed these arms. On a pistol, it can be something, but is seriously something else w/ rifle or shotgun charges! :confused:
 
Cool gun Ike.... :thumbsup:
I own a revolving carbine and it is miserable to shoot because your head is so close to the cylinder....and it's only a .44, can't imagine what a 10 gauge would be like.
 
A mid 19th century street sweeper. Nice. They should have left the forearm off entirely though.

That gun would be tough to figure out a way to shoot it safely, even from the hip
 
Looking at "FLAYDERMAN'S GUIDE TO ANTIQUE AMERICAN FIREARMS...and their values ", 9th Ed.
something seems to be wrong with this guns serial number.

Colt did make the revolving shotgun in both 10 and 20 guage between the years 1860 and 1863, but only 1100 were made.

The serial numbers started with 1 and ended with 1100.

The Colt model 1855 Sporting Rifles serial numbers would not go above 1500 as that is the number of that model made.

Colt made 9310 of the Military and Rifled Revolving Muskets with their own serial number system so, the receiver on this gun seems to be beyond the range of the serial numbers.

The book does not address the markings on the side of the frame and perhaps the 1857 patent date is correct however, the guns bearing a reference to a patent date on the top strap over the cylinder all refer to a "COLT'S PT./1856".

This book was published in 2007 and at that time it listed the value of the 10 guage revolving shotgun with a small trigger guard (like the one in the pictures above) as being, Good= $3000. Fine= $6000 (USD).
 
A lot of European gun makers built counterfeit and then 'brevete' Colt's firearms.
Ian McCollum has a video on his forgotten Weapons channel titled "Colt "Brevete" Copies: Legal, Illegal and Post-Legal from November 27, 2016. Hopefully I can add a link.
 
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