Conical in my 45 Cherokee?

[Big Tom 52]

I use a short two band hollow based mini with 40 grain FFF in my T.C. forty fives with good results. I would offer to send you some to try, but I am recovering from back surgery and won't be working in the shop for a while.

Thank you for the offer. I hope all goes well with your recovery!!

 

[hanshi]

Deep rifling grooves work great for prb but not so much with conicals. A prb can also work very well in a shallow groove rifle. I have a .54 with .006" grooves that's a tack driver with prb; but it is just so-so with conicals. But that's okay with me since I only hunt with prb.

 

[Crazy Jay]

I bought this barrel kind of a novelty years ago with tc mounts and tc lobo 3x scope. I tc maxi 50yds 2” group 55 gr s fff wad over powder.

 

[Bad Karma]

I've been playing with Lee 452 255 gr semi wad cutter in my TC 1:48. Cast from pure lead and sized to .451. Results are good. But, if you are going to get into purchasing a mold specific probably makes more sense to get a ML design.

A bullet from 250 to 350 grains should work. Play with lube and sizing as well as alloy if need be (or so inclined…) I’ve been casting with 30 and 40 to 1 alloys for other purposes but some of the muzzleloading bullets show promise too...

I know. Every single mz manual ever printed (since 1970 or so) says to use pure lead. Oddly enough I find references to harder bullets from publications preceding them by anywhere from 80 to 100 years. You never know…

 

[longcruise]

A bullet from 250 to 350 grains should work. Play with lube and sizing as well as alloy if need be (or so inclined…) I’ve been casting with 30 and 40 to 1 alloys for other purposes but some of the muzzleloading bullets show promise too...

I know. Every single mz manual ever printed (since 1970 or so) says to use pure lead. Oddly enough I find references to harder bullets from publications preceding them by anywhere from 80 to 100 years. You never know…

Yeah, somehow that lead/tin mix works in a BPCR. My 30:1 might work better given better casting quality.

Dirty secret; I've been playing with powder coating on them.

Also, Lee doesn't list that mold anymore but they list a 250 grain that might be better.

 

[Bad Karma]

Yeah, somehow that lead/tin mix works in a BPCR. My 30:1 might work better given better casting quality.

Dirty secret; I've been playing with powder coating on them.

Also, Lee doesn't list that mold anymore but they list a 250 grain that might be better.

Sshhh! You want to get booted??

 

[longcruise]

Sshhh! You want to get booted??

 

[Loyalist Dave]

The T/C 45 caliber Maxi-Ball will work in your rifle and the 45 cal Lee REAL conical is worth trying also.

Yes I'd say that the REAL bullet is a good candidate too! Now the .440 round ball from that rifle will take a whitetail, no worries, but if you want a conical the REAL has done very well in 1:48 twist rifles.

LD

 

[user 48702]

I cast these from an old Lyman (Ideal) mold #450229 that was designed for the 1858 Remington. They drop at .452 to .453 dia. (size to .451) and weigh 172-173 grains, with an OAL of .565 . Only tried these out to about 75 yards, but they are very accurate out of my T/C .45 Hawken.

 

[longcruise]

Yes I'd say that the REAL bullet is a good candidate too! Now the .440 round ball from that rifle will take a whitetail, no worries, but if you want a conical the REAL has done very well in 1:48 twist rifles.

LD

That's an important observation. I see a lot of concern over the use of balls in hunting but they are very effective. My use of the bullets in my 45 is to meet regulatory requirements of a minimum projectile weight of 170 grains for any big game animal smaller than elk. I still have 54 and 58 available but no longer a 50. Really need to remedy that.