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Well the idea was that if they were taking the time to raise something other than corn, sure, BUT what about the first settlers who normally planted an acre or so of corn, and corn was their first and only grain crop...,

We think corn bread was often found, and some journals mention it, but were they stretching the wheat (or oat) crop, OR did they make it without any other grain?

LD
 
Loyalist Dave said:
Well the idea was that if they were taking the time to raise something other than corn, sure, BUT what about the first settlers who normally planted an acre or so of corn, and corn was their first and only grain crop...,

We think corn bread was often found, and some journals mention it, but were they stretching the wheat (or oat) crop, OR did they make it without any other grain?

LD

This site might interest you, the evolution of cornbread

The evolution of cornbread
 
Hummm. Thinking about honey. Bees were called 'White mans flys' I wonder how long it took for honey to become avalible. I had an elderly neighbor lady who called sorgum honey. Sorgum is sold in a lot of country stores around here as molasses or 'hillbilly mollases' and some times hillbilly honey.
 
I had a copy of "The Virginia Housewife" and used some of the recipes. I also had an earlier cookbook, but I don't remember the name. When i lived in Arlington, an elderly lady was going into a nursing home and gave me her collection of cook books. One was entirely hand written by her great grandmother. I had trouble making out the writing and measurements though.
 
Interesting article. Brought back the memory of cooking "Johnny Cakes" as a 4H project in 4th grade. Simple recipe, corn meal, water, a little salt and a dollop of lard to fry them in. Palatable, even to a fourth grader, with a little maple syrup on top. :grin:
 
As a boy, I loved my grandmother’s cornbread. I never knew her recipe, she never really had one. She baked hot biscuits or cornbread three times a day, and like most country cooks of that time, she just mixed them up, and they were perfect. I spent years trying many cornbread recipes without success, looking for Mamaw’s, none were even close until I found this one, and it was, as Goldilocks said, just right.

Real Cornbread
Ronni Lundy

4 tablespoons bacon drippings
2 cups coarse, stone-ground yellow cornmeal [she used fine white]
1 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon baking soda
1/2 teaspoon baking powder
1 large egg
1 1/2 cups milk or buttermilk

The secret to really good cornbread is the crust, and the trick to making the crust just right is to heat the pan and drippings good and hot in your oven before you add the cornbread batter. So before you do so much as get out a bowl to mix up the batter, turn the oven to 450 degrees.
In a 9-inch, round, cast-iron skillet (or reasonable facsimile thereof), put about 4 tablespoons of drippings. Bacon grease is the traditional choice and gives cornbread a distinctive flavor. Pop the skillet, grease and all, into the oven. Please note, you can't accomplish what you want by heating the skillet on a burner on top of the stove. Doing that will make hot spots in the bottom of your skillet which in turn will make your cornbread stick to the bottom of the pan.
While the grease is getting good and hot in the oven, mix the cornmeal, salt, soda and baking powder in a big bowl. Add the egg and milk or buttermilk and stir until just blended.
Remove the skillet from the oven and very carefully (don't burn your hand!) swirl the grease around in the skillet so it coats the bottom and the lower half of the sides.
Now pour the hot grease into the cornmeal mix. If everything is perfect, it will snap, crackle, pop and bubble invitingly. (Even if it doesn't, there's no problem. It just means your grease wasn't quite hot enough and you should leave it a smidgen longer the next time. But don't leave it too long and start a fire.)
Mix lightly until the grease is just blended in, then pour the cornbread batter into the hot skillet and put it back in the oven for 20 to 25 minutes until the bread is firm in the middle and the top crust is crispy golden. Serve from the skillet or turn the skillet upside down on a big plate and the cornbread should slip right out.
If you want to make cornsticks, use the same recipe, but pour the batter into greased cornstick pans and bake for half the time.
Serves 6.





The first time I baked this, a piece of it, hot and with butter melted on it, along with a cold glass of sour buttermilk brought my childhood rushing back. When I had another glass of cold buttermilk filled with crumbled cornbread, eaten with a spoon, I was back at the table in Mamaw's house in "the holler". I was sitting at the little table with my three teenage uncles when they got home from school and I was allowed to share their after-school snack. I was four or five, and I was sitting in a chair swinging my feet because they wouldn't touch the floor, and I was as happy as could be with that cornbread and buttermilk. My feet touched the floor, this time, but I felt the same when I ate it.



Spence
 
Spence10 said:
The secret to really good cornbread is the crust, and the trick to making the crust just right is to heat the pan and drippings good and hot in your oven before you add the cornbread batter. Spence

Yes, just yes, do this and even the blue box will bring smiles.

Cornbread and buttermilk, I was wondering when we'd get to that. :grin:

Thanks for the recipe and bringing back more of my own memories.

Actually, I look at your quote there, and I think it would make a good signiture line. :haha:
 
As far as honey, sorghum, or molasses go, I've heard the word "lick" used to inclusively describe such sweeteners. Such as: "This dry cornbread needs some lick", or "Here's some lick to go with the biscuits"

Sorghum molasses, as opposed to sugar cane molasses we find in the store today, was the mainstay sweetener across south. Sorghum was easily grown nearly everywhere corn would grow, whereas sugar cane requires a tropical environment.

In the Southwest, I read of early settlers buying skins of "cactus syrup" as sweetener, from Mexicans who would bring them by on burros. I am not sure if this was agave syrup or syrup rendered from prickly pear fruit.
 
I’ve fiddled around with corn pones a bit, mostly using water powered, stone ground meal. I usually just use meal, salt and water, sometimes use milk when at home, and I sometimes add a little baking powder to the mix.

These were baked in a modern oven.




These were cooked directly on the coals, ash cakes.


These were fried on a trek, with a little bacon drippings.


They are all good. I an old fashioned man, like plain old fashioned cornbread. Modern cornbread is more like cake, finely textured, light, sweet. Thanks, but no thanks. :grin:

Spence
 
Certainly...,

Virginia Gazette February 1755:

"The [corn] stalks, green as they were, as soon pulled up, were carried to a convenient trough, then chopped and pounded so much that by boiling all the juice could be extracted out of them; which juice every planter knows is of as saccharine a quality as almost anything can be, and that any thing of a luxuriant corn stalk is very full of it..., "

This is a weak syrup, to be sure, and probably would be thought to be more like a sweet, corn tea by us today.

I remember too when studying South American native cultures, watching film footage of some native kids cutting and chewing bits of stalk..., which one of the other students thought was sugar cane, but the professor pointed out was corn stalk..., they were chewing the stock to suck out the juice, then spitting out the masticated bits, and starting on a fresh piece.

LD
 
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