Once I was dumb enough to put a south mtn. , kinda pointy ends , but plate , on an ultralight 38" x 7/8 oct. x.50 cal. rifle. It was a gift to my hunting buddy of 50+ years. Since the rifle was sort of a gag gift , as my other hunting buddy uses 3/16" thick sidewall copper pipe from his employment , he made the butt plate, and trig. guard , out of copper. I did the thimbles etc.of sheet copper. The rifle turned out about a hair under 7 lb.. The neighbor noted how light the rifle was , and how pointy the top of the butt return was , but we decided our hunting buddy needed a little pain in his life. Lucky for our 81 yr. old hunting friend , he took the gun to the range for a sight in adventure in cold weather and wore a heavy coat. We got a call when he got home , his new rifle was a good success , and he thanked us , but said us two smart a$$es with the pointy butt plate , will have to hunt with him carrying a fine looking rifle with a piece of pipe insulation duct taped , across the curve of the butt. Should a known he'd figure a fix for the curved butt plate , but dang, he figured it out so quick. Well , tomorrow's a new day , have ta figger some other gag for him..........oldwood