CVA Mountain Rifle

[Swampman]

I did have one rifle by Jack Hubbard that shot pretty good. Like my T/C it would shoot a ragged hole at 25 yards. I have no reason to lie because I don't have to impress anyone.

 

[Little Wattsy]

I did have one rifle by Jack Hubbard that shot pretty good. Like my T/C it would shoot a ragged hole at 25 yards. I have no reason to lie because I don't have to impress anyone.

Ummmm OK. :haha:

 

[Dave K]

You are right Mark, you don't have to impress anyone who isn't asking to be impressed. :rotf: That is why I like good, well made custom guns. They were built to impress me, with their builders craft! A gun truly worth $3000-#4000 is a piece of art to me, a gun $300-$400 that shoots good, is a tool.(I do have/had CVA's,T/C's,GPR's) Yugo's are great, if you don't want to walk, but Ferrari's are are awesome, if you want to run. Sorry Mark,you opened the foor and I have to go through open doors. :grin:

 

[zimmerstutzen]

A smoothbore will shoot a ragged hole at 25 yds, many even at 50yds. Most production side locks are lucky to keep a 4 inch group at 100 yds.
Due in large part to the lousy rifling some companies peddle.

Now certainly not all "custom" guns are tack drivers, but most ffolks going to the expense of building a custom gun will use a much better barrel than is available for a production gun.

Barrels aren't everything for fine target accuracy, but they sure are the largest part of it.

CVA Mtn rifles generally had very good rifling for round ball accuracy. Certainly better than what was offerred for round balls by TC back then.

 

[Swampman]

I have to add the more I paid (an the more well known the builder) the worse they shot and the less reliable they were. Having works of art is nice, but meat in the freezer is better IMO.

A real woodsman needs a tool worse than art. Pretty is as pretty does. :wink:

 

[Little Wattsy]

I have to add the more I paid (an the more well known the builder) the worse they shot and the less reliable they were. Having works of art is nice, but meat in the freezer is better IMO.

A real woodsman needs a tool worse than art. Pretty is as pretty does. :wink:

Ok im calling :bull: again! :nono: But what strikes me all the more would be the .....????? ummmm ignorance of someone that would spend $3000.00 to $4000.00 on a gun (apparently several times, which would be what 5 - 6 times or more) on guns that apparently were pieces of manure; meaning they couldnt shoot with a $150.00 T/C :youcrazy:

Sorry but My :bull: detector is all lit up. :wink:

 

[Swampman]

Because I didn't get to shoot them until after they were built. One shot about 8" to the left at 15-20 yards. It recently sold on TOW for about $3400.00 I believe.

I guess they are "art" and not meant to shoot.

 

[Little Wattsy]

Because I didn't get to shoot them until after they were built. One shot about 8" to the left at 15-20 yards. It recently sold on TOW for about $3400.00 I believe.

I guess they are "art" and not meant to shoot.

So I understand that you have "only been doing this for 30 years" but you DO understand that sights can be adjusted. RGHT? :haha: :haha: :haha:

Im sorry this is just :bull: on sooooo meny levels :surrender:

 

[necchi]

I'm with ya on this one Wattsy, he's obviously somekind of dealer/trader with a gunshow bench an all, but a stock T/C outshooting a custom gun, and/or a custom made by pro's that doesn't shoot well because it's "Art"

Is just plain :bull: there is no other way to put it.

But if that's what Mark wants he's more than welcome to it.

That's my opinion, and worth exactly what ya paid for it.

 

[Walks Alone]

I have no reason to lie because I don't have to impress anyone.

I can say without reservation that you've never impressed me, and your comments on this thread is a good example why.
:shake:

 

[Kentuckywindage]

my factory .22 will out shoot both the TC and the Custom rifle put together! :blah:

 

[Swampman]

35 years, and I can only report what I found to be the facts. In order to get the rifle to hit the target at 25 yards the rear sight would have had to be drifted completely out of it's dovetail. The front sight was not adjustable.

"Custom" doesn't mean much of anything when it comes to accuracy. I've seen plenty of matches won by cheap factory rifles against $4,000+ guns. It's for sure that a Green Mountain barreled T/C will shoot with anything you can buy. The T/C factory barrels aren't far behind. Sorry this thread was derailed. I can't afford a custom gun that the workmanship would meet my standards so I just shoot $100.00/$200.00 guns that I find in pawn shops. They do quite well for me. Just part of my frugal Backwoodsman mentality. I don't have to be a legend. :hatsoff:

 

[ebiggs1]

I agree with you. I can’t afford a custom gun so I have never owned one or shot one. But every TC or Lyman I’ve had shot well better that I can shoot it. So what would I gain by getting a custom gun? I just put a GM barrel on a TC and the touching holes it shoots might be closer together but not by much and a deer certainly isn’t going to know the difference.
There is no doubt customs are beautiful and I love to look at them and wouldn’t turn one down but”¦”¦”¦”¦”¦”¦..

 

[Rogue River]

What happened to the CVA Topic? Sounds more like a food fight! :idunno:

 

[Semisane]

This is a CVA topic - Can't Verify Anything

 

[Rogue River]

:thumbsup:

 

[jeep44]

Let's get back to the topic at hand... :wink:

 

[Swampman]

Nice looking guns.

 

[jeep44]

I built the top gun,a .45, in '76. The bottom one was an unfinished .50 kit gun I bought in '07.

 

[Birddog6]

Sold this .58 last year for i believe $435

I miss it

Hey......... :idunno: you thru me a curve there... Did you or somone add that patchbox on the rifle ? Cause the CVA Big Bore Mountain Rifles in .58 cal. didn't have a patchbox on them. I built one in 1976-7 ? and still have it.

Keith Lisle