Dangerous M1816 Lockplate on Ebay!

[kb466]

Sunday, I listed some surplus M1816 musket parts on Ebay and was soon notified by Ebay that the listing for an 1830-dated, stripped Springfield lockplate was being removed as it was in violation of their "firearms" policy. I emailed them asking them to reconsider or explain. Well, they responded saying that they had looked at the deleted listing and determined that the lockplate was a "complete firearm" and they would not change their decision to delete it. I was told not to list any more "complete firearms" on Ebay. So, beware of those dangerous lockplates...who would have thought they were "complete firearms"?!

I guess I will list the lockplate here in the classifieds or on Gunbroker where I would expect people to know what a "complete firearm" is.

 

[Rebel]

I won't deal with E-Bay because if their Anti-Gun views.

 

[roundball]

IMO, GunBroker is a far better firearms site...and there's no fee until you actually sell the firearm...just list it and let it sit there as long as you want...sold a number of firearms on GunBroker.

(and AuctionArms, but GB is outdistancing AA wouldn't be surprised if AA eventually goes out of business)

 

[twobirds]

So, beware of those dangerous lockplates...who would have thought they were "complete firearms"?!quote]

Thanks for the heads-up on this serious issue. I, for one, am contacting my congressman in the morning, asking him to introduce legislation to ban private ownership of these dangerous lockplates - or at the very minimum, to require a 10-day waiting period and mandatory background check. :youcrazy: These eBay people neeed to get a life. :shake:

 

[AdirondakDD]

E-Bay is not firearms friendly. I listed a handguard for a AR15. (Two plastic halves that go over a barrel, harmless) and it was removed because of their no firearms policy. The word AR15 probably got their censors. I once purchesed 20 round magazines off of ebay. The ad said "10 round clip". You had to look at the picture to see what it was,I emailed the seller and the respons was just. "Look at the picture that is what you get."

 

[Swampman]

Gunbroker probably has less than 1% of the traffic eBay gets. I've seen several complete Brown Bess muskets sell on there. There was an India made Long Land pattern that sold on ebay less than a month ago for $640.00. It's all in how you list it.

 

[roundball]

Gunbroker probably has less than 1% of the traffic eBay gets. I've seen several complete Brown Bess muskets sell on there. There was an India made Long Land pattern that sold on ebay less than a month ago for $640.00. It's all in how you list it.

Apples and oranges...the other 99% aren't looking at guns

 

[tmdreb]

There is a good side to this. I've seen more than one unscrupulous fellow take a complete original firearm and sell off the pieces one by one to get around the "complete firearm" rules.

Hopefully their new hostility towards guns will end this terrible pracitce.

 

[bulletman]

was that lock plate a full auto ?

 

[Swampman]

http://cgi.ebay.com/REVOLUTIONARY-1...ryZ10951QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Here's a complete Bess.

 

[BLAHMAN]

......So, beware of those dangerous lockplates...who would have thought they were "complete firearms"?!

I guess I will list the lockplate here in the classifieds or on Gunbroker where I would expect people to know what a "complete firearm" is.

You're expecting too much. Only complete idiots know that the lockplate described is a complete firearm.

Thank goodness I'm not that 'complete'.

 

[Zonie]

http://cgi.ebay.com/REVOLUTIONARY-1812-RE-ENACTMENT-BROWN-BESS-REPLICA_W0QQitemZ6581503829QQcategoryZ10951QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Here's a complete Bess.

That isn't a gun though. See the ad? Its a "Re-enactment Replica" :rotf:
AND the end of the barrel looks like it has that silly orange plastic thing you see in kids cap guns barrels today. :rotf: :rotf:

And everyone knows a Brown Bess can't be a gun!!
If it was really a gun, the knowledgable folks at eBay would have heard of it in the daily paper and they would have banned it. :grin: :grin: :rotf:

 

[kb466]

As an update to this, I complained to Ebay that they do not know what they are doing in saying a lockplate was a "complete firearm". Well, I got a second response from one of their supervisors and he said they were correct in removing the lockplate because it could be assembled with a cutdown M1816 musket barrel and ramrod I was listing to make a "flintlock firearm". So, as he informed me, the lockplate is in fact a "full firearm". Go figure.

 

[Zonie]

"...the lockplate is in fact a "full firearm"."

It is truly hard to see clearly when ones sphincter is pulled down over ones ears and located around ones neck.

 

[mikelange]

I'm gonna ease up to the line separating this topic from the issue of actual gun control, which I know is a no-no. I consider myself warned. All I want to say is, this is an object lesson in what happens when people who don't like or know guns are given the authority to regulate them in any way, shape, or form. More scary, what happens when people who aren't actually anti-gun, but don't know guns, are given a job (regulating guns and gun parts) and do it to the best of their ignorant ability. "Just following orders" is the phrase used, I believe.

And to ease deeper into hot water, this is why I won't attack or otherwise try to close ranks against in-line shooters -- or any other kind of gun owner, as long as that individual's a responsible shooter. "Divide and conquer" is an ancient and frighteningly successful tactic that saves the conquerer much time and energy, by simply letting the conquered devour one another in the course of short-sighted and ultimately pointless feuds.

 

[wheelockhunter]

Look up the legend known as ninteen11
[url] http://home.comcast.net/~epilicy3104/brass.htm[/url]
[url] http://home.comcast.net/~epilicy3104/newbrass.htm[/url]

Truley a master at dealing with ebay, you have to read the full ad for the full effect.

If you don't want to read the whoe thing just go down to the final disclamer, hilarious.

 

[mikelange]

Stunning. Utterly stunning.

At this point I must either remain silent or launch into a several-thousand-word response to the absurdity of what I just read, and in the process hijack this thread and crash it into the Land Of Forbidden Topics. I opt for moderation (before I get Moderated) and bow out of this topic.

 

[CrackStock]

Thanks for that interesting item to bid on.

Uh, how will that work with my flintlock? :hmm:

Seriously, I will not deal with ebay because of their anti gun attitude.

CS

 

[olgriz]

I heard of Ebay freezing pay pal accounts, and you can't get your money. They can get away with it because they aren't federally insured like a bank. I've sold stuff and purchased stuff on ebay, but not in a long time. I remember a few years ago they had explicit xxx porn for sale, but you couldn't buy or sell a gun or ammo, and that really frosted me. Seems like everything that was legal and honest when I was a kid is now illegal, and what was illegal then is now legal. If you don't believe me, go out looking for Indian arrow heads, if you find some and get caught you go to jail, and when I was a kid that's what we did, had a picnic, looked for arrow heads and shot our 22's at tin cans, and the Forest Service would tell you the best places to go look. I went into a gun store and bought a Colt woodsman with my paper route money when I was 16, no questions asked. That's when America was free folks, it aint like it used to be. I don't want to sound like I'm defending ebay, but they are world wide, and they wouldn't be able to sell in some countries if they allowed firearms sales, so supposedly they banned all those types of sales for that reason. I actually think they started out as a bunch of San Francisco liberals and just don't like guns. But if the world thing is true, it's just one more reason that we don't want anything to do with a world government. Just my 2 cents, take it for what it's worth, which will get you a cup of coffee in Roseburg if you put a dollar and a quarter with it.

 

[olgriz]

I went to the web site Wheeloockhunter posted, and there are 5 empty 308 brass and a stripper clip being bid on. The bid is 51 Austrailian dollars. So I went to a money exchange, and that amount is almost $38 American dollars. Wow, what's going on?