guys i have to admit im really stupid in this way. a nay sayer has to hit me in the face before i see it. alot of the chit chat here i dont understand. just dont understand. we can talk about anything here and someone is going to shoot us down. remember this: to be called a idiot by a total nut job is the highest form of praise you will ever receive. most of it goes over my head, doesnt mean they are smarter, just have better mouths at bullshitting. also the one who replyed about anti freeze is 100 percent on. it is a old timers trick. like old dutch here about patching material, anti freeze as a bases for a lube is a real oldtimers trick that still works. i bet mixed with dawn it is even better.