decoration of a trade musket

[silverfox]

I may be wrong but I thought the indian sign was made backwards from the nazi swatika. I dont know what they called it but its not a swatika. :m2c:
Fox

 

[Rebel]

The ones i have are backwards. They point counter-clockwise instead of clockwise. And i was of the impression that Sioux colors were Red, Yellow, Black, and White. May be wrong, wouldn't be the first time.

 

[Stumpkiller]

,.... I'm git'n kind'a worry 'bout ol' Ghost, he thinks'a turtle is an "animal" jest like his lab.

??? Ain't they ???

Turtles ain't minerals or vegetables is they?

Lessee . . .

King Phillip Can Only Find Good Sex

Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Reptillia
Order: Testudines

And after that turtles is as turtles does.

Family:
Genus:
Species:

Much as I hate to admit, G-g-g-ghost is r-r-r-right. Ugh, I've got to go rinse my mouth out.

He's got his ducks in order. No, ducks are Animalia, Chordata, Aves, Aniferiformes . . . Who said "Duck?"

 

"RATS"!!!!!..... Why does he always haft'a be right!! :cry: :curse:

YMHS
rollingb

 

[Stumpkiller]

Back on tacks,

I read somewhere when I was poking around yeaterday that the smaller diameter and coned heads were "more desireable", but I haven't spotted any coned heads on the images so far?

Last night I ordered 100 1/4" coned tacks from TOTW. Keep these patterns coming in. Me and Newtoflints need ideas!

It seems the spaced groups of three on the fore ends is ubiquitous (gotta use that word occasionaly), and looks good for either pinned or key & escutcheon barrel mounts.

 

[Stumpkiller]

Whatcha think? My cheesey New Englander with tacks added as shown to force the eye into believing there is some British trade-gun geometry in the butt-stock? That section where the wrist shape runs back on British guns is as flat as a skillet on the New Englander. I have the 12 ga smooth barrel, so I'm thinking late 18th century half-stock trade-gun, kinda, sorta . . .

 

[Keith]

Okay I laughed when you said the New Englander looked like a trade gun, but this is getting out of hand. :no:
Buy a GPR, somebody has to say that in every thread around here you know, :winking: new rule, and decorate that. The New Englander would properly be decorated like a Billinghurst or other eastern style gun.

 

[Stumpkiller]

Hey, work with me here. If it's not a modification I can do with a hammer, like tacks, it ain't gonna happen. ::

Here's an original 16 ga. M.M. Maslin. Other than the length of the barrel it's 12% identical. :winking:

I just want to "pretty up" ol "Blunderpotz, not recreate a historical weapon.

 

[Keith]

"I just want to "pretty up" ol "Blunderpotz, not recreate a historical weapon."
Well you won't be recreating anything that's sure. Whether you are prettying up the gun is debatble... well beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :shake:
I think you have been looking at too many numbers. Tell the boss you aren't right :youcrazy: and take the rest of the day off.

 

[musketman]

Another way is to use small brass nails... (small flat heads)

They fit flush and shine just as nice as dome tacks...

 

I think rawhide looks good on'a gun wether it is actualy used as a "repair" or gives tha "impression" of a repair!! ::

Tacks on'a riflegun should have some rawhide either 'round tha wrist, or fore end, ta keep'em company!! :haha: :imo:

YMHS
rollingb

 

[flintkeeper]

It's an ancient symbol of Sun; I believe, transcultural. The nazi swastika WAS backwards. I have seen the sign (the ancient one) on the old service robes of christian priests in a museum.
Still, interesting: how did the sign end up on the stock?

 

[Wes/Tex]

the nazi swastika WAS backwards.

Absolutely correct. The Native American belief is that the nazis brought it on themselves by perverting the sun-symbol in a reversed direction. Basically, it is a part of the Medicine Wheel belief and the true rotation is what we would call clock-wise or what they think of as Sun-Wise or turning in the direction as the sun turns. By perverting the medicine Wheel they, the nazis, fell out of Harmony & Balance with the Correctness of the Universe. Simple, huh?

 

[Keith]

How did the Nazis end up with an American Indian symbol, reversed or not? Wasn't the Swastika found in other cultures?

 

[Donny]

In Hamilton's book, and other references I recall of the top of my head; Seems like almost always, on indian guns, there was a cross?? and a row down the butt. :winking:

 

[Donny]

Mr. Stumpkiller, is the triggerguard inlet any? :: I built a fowler with brass from J.Garner, nearly identical pieces to the buttplate and guard.

 

[FearNot]

Correct, the swastika symbol predates the Nazi regime. I have a first edition Kipling book that uses that symbol impressed on the binding and on the title page. There's no publish date, but the fly leaf inscription is 1918. I just checked, it's a clockwise pointing symbol.

 

[Stumpkiller]

Mr. Stumpkiller, is the triggerguard inlet any?

Mr. Stumpkiller? Don't start showin me no respect. I'll have to start actin better, and I don't want that.

The M.M. Maslin isn't mine ( ). I just "borrowed" the images of an English style half-stock. It looks like the trigger bow (which is silver!) id set on a flat, but not inlet. The shape of the buttplate and triggerguard are pretty typical English designs.