Has anyone use Diamondback Powder? Was also wondering if it was made in the U.S.A. Have any thoughts on it let me know.
Diamondback Powder
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Googled their website. No mention of manufacturing location, but they list several well known U.S. distributors. Since they don't list retail prices, we have no way of comparing them to others. I take it that they also cater to fireworks producers. I'm sure Powder, Inc. or one of the other distributors will be glad to tell you all you want to know about the company.
Powder Inc. sells it for $11.40lb. Must buy 25 lbs. Goex sells for $14.50, but its U.S.A. made and real back powder. I like Goex,was just wondering if anyone has tried Diamondback.
My best friend uses it. He always scores near the top at our club.
My understanding is that Diamondback is, essentially, floor sweepings of bp and is mixed granualtions. Nothing wrong with it except lack of consistency in granulations. His scores do not indicate a problem with this at all. And the price is right.
My understanding is that Diamondback is, essentially, floor sweepings of bp and is mixed granualtions. Nothing wrong with it except lack of consistency in granulations. His scores do not indicate a problem with this at all. And the price is right.
I am using it. It works as well as my Goex does so far. Diamondback powder is made in Brazil.
It’s made by the old Elephant brand company. The old Elephant brand powder had some problems
And I think as they improved their powder they had to change their name of the powder in order
To overcome the bad reputation that old Elephant brand had.
It was $11.00 delivered to my door. It works well enough in my .32 to .75
William Alexander
It’s made by the old Elephant brand company. The old Elephant brand powder had some problems
And I think as they improved their powder they had to change their name of the powder in order
To overcome the bad reputation that old Elephant brand had.
It was $11.00 delivered to my door. It works well enough in my .32 to .75
William Alexander
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I used a couple pounds of diamondback a couple years ago. It works fine. I was using it for BP shotgun shells because it was cheap at $8 per lb.
It is made in Brazil and is made on the old elephant plant machinery that has been moved to a new location by a new owner. It isn't "floor sweepings" either. :wink:
I'll probably get a couple pounds again and try it in MLs.
It is made in Brazil and is made on the old elephant plant machinery that has been moved to a new location by a new owner. It isn't "floor sweepings" either. :wink:
I'll probably get a couple pounds again and try it in MLs.
I've not used it, but here are some previous discussions. There are many more. (the search function actually does work) :wink:juice jaws said:
http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/258667 http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/258020 http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/255045 http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/243782 http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/233176 http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/232126
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ff Not disagreeing with ya, but I haven't been able to find anything that way. Keeps sending me hundreds of hits with no real relevance to what I am looking for. Perhaps some clues to this baboon (me not the OP) on how to properly use said search engine are in store?
Reply to all, I purchased 2F and 3F DB to replace the Goex and Graf's (Wano) 2F and 3F I'd been using and have since used up. After using several pounds of it in 2 rifles and 1 trade gun, I must say I'm very impressed with it. Firstly, it may be produced in the same plant as Elephant was, but it is most assuredly NOT Elephant BP (tried Pachyderm long ago, but didn't like it). Second, the 2F granules are glazed and quite uniform, with little dust ("fines") in evidence. Third, neither accuracy nor point of impact has changed in any of the guns I've used. Fourth, bore fouling and crud rings haven't accumulated more with DB than with the other powders and clean up is neither better nor worse than with Goex or Graf's. With a good grease lube, e.g., Stumpy's Moose Snot, I can fire quite a few rounds before I have to run a damp patch down bore. In the trade gun, with a wet lube, e.g., Friendship Speed Juice or Winchester Sutler's "Moose Milk," I don't have to do that at all even with 70gr. - 85gr. 2F charges + a patched RB. In short, DB is not your grandfather's Elephant and is certainly worth trying.
Thanks Maven. I will be breaking out the chronograph in a few weeks to check what it does in my rifles.
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I'll be very interested in your results.
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There is a guy who sells the stuff in Mineral Illinois for like 8.00 an LB, nearly 1/2 of goex, I intend to try a pound or 2. That said I really like goex and graff much bettter than the subs. I mean how else can I use the old bed sheets up besides making cleaning patches.
A number of years ago Bill Knight (Mad Monk) wrote several articles about the Elephant Powder company.
For those who don't know, Bill Knight is perhaps the most knowledgable guy there is in the US when it comes to making black powder on a large commercial basis.
Anyway, I recall that he mentioned that the workers at the Elephant Powder Co were not very particular about the wood they were using to produce the charcoal and often large amounts of bark were tossed into the converter.
This was a good part of the reason there was quite a bit of variance in their product and its tendency to foul the bores rather badly.
As was mentioned, Elephant Powder went out of business several years ago. I heard the land they were sitting on was worth more than their whole company.
Anyway, if Diamond bought their equipment and strives to maintain a high level of quality control (no bark in the charcoal etc.) there is no reason their powder couldn't be quite good.
We need for a bunch of you folks to buy some and give us your opinion about it after shooting up several pounds.
For those who don't know, Bill Knight is perhaps the most knowledgable guy there is in the US when it comes to making black powder on a large commercial basis.
Anyway, I recall that he mentioned that the workers at the Elephant Powder Co were not very particular about the wood they were using to produce the charcoal and often large amounts of bark were tossed into the converter.
This was a good part of the reason there was quite a bit of variance in their product and its tendency to foul the bores rather badly.
As was mentioned, Elephant Powder went out of business several years ago. I heard the land they were sitting on was worth more than their whole company.
Anyway, if Diamond bought their equipment and strives to maintain a high level of quality control (no bark in the charcoal etc.) there is no reason their powder couldn't be quite good.
We need for a bunch of you folks to buy some and give us your opinion about it after shooting up several pounds.
I have shot about 1 1/2 lbs of 3f of Diamondback. It has been the only real black I have used so I can not really compare it to anything other than Pyrodex. It ignites better than the pyro, it is dirtier than pyro. Seems to smoke less than the pyrodex as well. I do like that. I get very good accuracy with it.
