Do Not Purchase Lyman Products!!!

[dcalef3]

should of bought a hand made bag mold from larry callahn.

 

[stinkyfeet]

Glad I am not the only one who recieved a crappy Lyman product and got the run around from their Customer Service people. Once a great company is now a turd factory.

 

[DNICK]

Every Lyman product I have purchased has been great couldn't ask for better fit and finish on any of them , maybe I'm just lucky but that's what I expect from them and what I have always received.

 

[William O.]

Every Lyman product I have purchased has been great couldn't ask for better fit and finish on any of them , maybe I'm just lucky but that's what I expect from them and what I have always received.

Same here, never had any problems with Lyman and they actually sent me two small screws for my GPR for free, no charge.

 

[George T.]

It may have changed but other than their being slow to ship I have been happy with them.

Geo. T.

 

[Dphar]

Lyman does not put the mould size on the outside. That is a model number. Lee does the same. I dunnow why. :idunno: It is super irritating and pointless, IMHO.
Before sending back I would check against the web site to make sure it is the wrong size.
Lyman is a solid, old and reliable company. There are ways to contact any company. There must be a reason you haven't had a reply. If you paid with a credit card, use that to cancel the charges and shop elsewhere or go to another brand.

Ball moulds have the ball size stamped in them. There is generally an assembly number as well and sometimes another number or letters in the current production stuff. Go to eBay and look for Lyman round ball moulds and look at the photos. Sometimes they have a very good selection BTW. I have only gotten one dud, someone had wire wheeled the cavities on a 4 cavity .500 mould, got a refund.
The BULLET moulds for cartridges have the first 3 digits of the part number as the size the bullet is meant to be SIZED too.

To answer the original posters problem. They are likely not making 570s right now and may not until it comes up in the normal rotation. Someone screwed up the stamping. DO-DO occurs. I am sure it that it will be made right. But expecting them to upset their normal production cycle to make one mould is unrealistic.
I don't know who you ordered from but I would have sent it back to them if it was other than Lyman.
This is no indication that Lyman is some sort of rip off company. If they operated like this as a normal process they would not have been in business for over 130 years.
Frankly in the world of custom gun work, for example, (and I DO understand your frustration) complaining in 1.5 months is laughable.

A company I once worked from was over 5 years out at one point. Order a gun and in 5 years or maybe a little more it was built and ready to ship. They were not ripping people off, they were swamped. Go to the NRA convention, for example, and come back with a orders for a full years production just from that one show. So lighten up a little. Show some patience and if you need a certain ball size order some from TOW or pick some up at a gun store if they have them.

Dan

 

[Jim Evans]

Every Lyman product I have purchased has been great couldn't ask for better fit and finish on any of them , maybe I'm just lucky but that's what I expect from them and what I have always received.

I can say the same also.

 

[tom deinek]

Got a Lyman ball mold laying on the computer desk.

No diameter size markings on it. Just some gibberish that would only make sense to Lyman.

Maybe it's from the Lyman Custom Shop, like the lopsided mold referred to earlier.

 

[Dphar]

Lopsided bullets.
I used to heattreat mould block blanks in my electric pottery kiln for Steve Brooks when he first started out.
These were iron of course and is not heat treated before the cavities were cut then would warp and produce out of round bullets when heated the first time.
So he would bring over a batch of blocks with everything done but the cavity and IIRC the index pins.
I would heat them to 1400 or so then let them cool in the kiln overnight. He would then reface the inside surface to make them even and then cut the cavity.
But his moulds cost a lot more than a Lyman.

Dan

 

[bpd303]

Same here. I have a dozen Lyman/Ideal molds and every one of them have the size along with the PD number on them (like 575213). Although I haven't purchased any from them in a while every one is close to perfect so I wouldn't hesitate to buy again.

 

[mooman76]

Got a Lyman ball mold laying on the computer desk.

No diameter size markings on it. Just some gibberish that would only make sense to Lyman.

Maybe it's from the Lyman Custom Shop, like the lopsided mold referred to earlier.

It doesn't always hold true because they have changed over the years but generally the first 3 digits of the 6 digit mould number in Lyman moulds, RCBS also, are the diameter.

 

[Peter LeRay]

Really? Tell me what pure lead, or alloy shrinks .035 in dia!!

 

[Lonegun1894]

I also have close to ten Lyman molds, and 3 GPRs, along with other Lyman products, and all have been great. Having said that, any company makes mistakes and I would say to give them a chance to make it right. BTW, my last custom mold cost me more than a new Lyman mold does and I waited over a year for it, so a month and a half is laughable to me, even if I do understand the frustration of not being satisfied with getting something other than what you paid for.

 

[Dean2]

Let me add one more take a chill pill. Two, who are you to tell me who to buy from. Maybe I like my balls undersized. :grin:

In all seriousness, approach this with the attitude of trying to help keep a great company great. The shooting sports is unique in have GREAT customer service and great quality goods companies. RCBS, Lyman, Lee, Redding, Dillon, Leupold, Brownell's, Sinclair, TOW pop into my head right off the bat. I can't think of any other thing I do where the service and quality is consistently top notch.

Lets try to concentrate on the good aspects and keep the bashing for those who truly deserve it. Lets focus on the rip off artists, fly by night Incs and the government(S) that are everything they can possibly finagle to take your guns away. That is a far more useful thing to push back hard on and spend energy on.

 

[MSW]

What the hell happened to the company? Porbably hired someone with their pants half down and a finger in their nose. Look around! Been to dunkin donuts,burger king, mcdonalds? piss poor work ethic and no pride, thats what happened. :shake:
Nit Wit

we let the government and complicit corporate shills outsource just about every decent manufacturing job to third world pest-holes where they can get underfed peasants to do work for a bowl of rice a day and call it good - - the daughter of a co- worker of mine just came back from teaching English in China ... he said that when he went there to visit her, she introduced him to a local factory manager, who had just won a huge safety award: no fatalities in a whole month ... isn't that just great, comrade?

now we've managed to back ourselves into a corner, where little jonnie applies to a job at a mill and can barely read a ruler, drive a tow motor, or figure out a production schedule, and he expects to get union scale and have Friday nights off so he can party with his buddies ... he used to get these basic life skills in high school shop class, but this has been drowned out with diversity training (no kidding: there are two 'diversity instructors' at the local high school (at our tax expense)), and then there's the what-to-do-with-a-condom class (like they can't figure this out for themselves?) and the 'don't take drugs' classes (this is rocket science, too, I guess) and then there's the constant drumbeat of improving everybody's self- esteem, where we play soccer, but we don't keep score and everyone gets an award for 'participation...' and then we kick these poor buggers out into the real world, and they get to make their own life skills, which involve learning phrases such as 'supersize that?'

when you pay peanuts, you get monkeys


(OK- -that's the end of the tirade: i'll climb off my soapbox before I fall and get hurt)

 

[JimG]

MSW nailed it perfectly! Perfect description of todays problems!!

 

[coloradoclyde]

My response was to Grullaguy. I measured some of my .50 cal bullets the other day and they too were .002 undersized.
I would say that your mould is mismarked. I would remark it and either sell it or buy a .54 cal rifle. :v
Oops sorry I see you sent it back and are waiting.
manufacturing productions are done in runs by manufactures based on orders. it could take a year for enough orders to justify another production run. then it takes another couple of months to make it to america and clear customs.

I have said this before I never send anything back to a manufacturer. :nono:

 

[kopfjaeger]

Eric;
The barrel is lopsided too which is the only way it would shoot so well. You just have to make sure to load it with the lop on the correct side every time and do NOT use lop-compensating-patches as they will offset or exponentially increase the counterbalance side of the centrifugal lop.

Ed

"LOL" :haha:

 

[kopfjaeger]

Alden is correct and also make sure you lube the small side of the patch slightly less than the bigger side. Will keep the groups tight.

"LOL" :haha:

 

[Jim Evans]

Put an order in to Lyman on the 17th and got the items today,I think that is real good service that I will do again when I need something from them.
:thumbsup: