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Does a long L.O.P. cause shooting to the side?

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I have a Japanese made Brown Bess which has a length of pull which is too long for me. In fact I find it best to pull the trigger with my midddle finger. The musket shoots a little low and about 4 inches left at 25 yards. I've thought about bending the barrel, or a little filing of the muzzle, but then I got to thinking.........
Could the long LOP be causing me to shoot to the left, if I'm shooting off the right shoulder?
 
You could probably determine that with just a few shots shooting off the bench / sandbags...see if its you or the barrel pretty quick
 
Since the bess does not have a rear sight a L O P that is incorrect could have you holding the gun at an angle and not noticing it. As suggested try a few shots off of the bench to determine if the barrel needs adjustments or the stock needs trimed. :idunno: :idunno:
 
I've never seen side-to-side, but it certainly can affect up and down. I'm 6'4" with orangatan arms according to my wife, so LOP is often too short rather than too long. I have a tendency to throw my shots high on short stocks, especially with no rear sight and a comb that is a little high. I just don't get my head down far enough.

I'd sure bench it as the others suggest.
 
Stock dimentions are quite important for snap shooting on flying game. For carefully aimed ball shots I doubt that LOP would have much effect on shot placement. To shorten that stock would be a lot of work, I'd learn to live with it.
 
BrownBear said:
I've never seen side-to-side, but it certainly can affect up and down. I'm 6'4" with orangatan arms according to my wife, so LOP is often too short rather than too long. I have a tendency to throw my shots high on short stocks, especially with no rear sight and a comb that is a little high. I just don't get my head down far enough.

I'd sure bench it as the others suggest.


I think Brown Bear and I where separated at birth as I am 6'5" and a founding member of the Grass Stained Knuckle Society. When a shooting a smooth bore with too short of LOP I will hit high as well. Most "muskets" are way to short for me usually giving me a sight picture with the front sight considerably higher than the rear sight. However LOP is not the only culprit drop at comb { most military stocks are very straight }, even width of the butt can affect your shooting.

Snow
 
Snow on the Roof said:
BrownBear said:
I've never seen side-to-side, but it certainly can affect up and down. I'm 6'4" with orangatan arms according to my wife, so LOP is often too short rather than too long. I have a tendency to throw my shots high on short stocks, especially with no rear sight and a comb that is a little high. I just don't get my head down far enough.

I'd sure bench it as the others suggest.


I think Brown Bear and I where separated at birth as I am 6'5" and a founding member of the Grass Stained Knuckle Society. When a shooting a smooth bore with too short of LOP I will hit high as well. Most "muskets" are way to short for me usually giving me a sight picture with the front sight considerably higher than the rear sight. However LOP is not the only culprit drop at comb { most military stocks are very straight }, even width of the butt can affect your shooting.

Snow


The off-set (or lack of it) can also affect accuracy.
 
Eliminate factors such as the gun not shooting true to point of aim and shooter error (flinching, hunkering, etc.) by shooting off a good rest for a series (same thing every time) and also having others do the same.
 
How are you aiming? I have seen Besses that have the bayonet lug centered well enough for a foresight, and others where it was double-digit degrees off to either side. I pretty much ignored mine and aimed the Bess as I do a traditional bow - focus on the target and let my low peripheral vision work out the hold.
 

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