doglock on a kentucky?

[Darto]

There were certainly many (I think most) dog locks that did not have an internal half cock. I would never want an internal half cock on a dog lock.

Nor the modern safeties on a reproduction SAA revolver that Italian makers add to make the guns legal in some countries. Nor a key lock on a Smith and Wesson, etc.

 

[Capt. Jas.]

Sliding safeties were supplements to a half-cock notch, not replacements, I believe.

For the most part true but there were some 18th century English flintlock fowling pieces set up with no half cock and a sliding safety. Slide the safety off just like a modern gun and fire.

 

[Dphar]

yes. I plan to have a kentucky with double set triggers, but if I have that, I must have a fly - I don't want to have to make that little bugger.

So I need a safety other than a half cock notch in the tumbler, and therefore the doglock catch seems like a good idea.

You really need to think this through.
Does it not occur that there might be a reason the English makers abandoned the dog lock? Why its not seen on any known American made rifle and probably very few English rifles?
The fly, as found on the Siler for example is about the simplest thing on a long rifle to make and only takes a few minutes. Then a few more to tune it to the tumbler. Making a non-fly tumbler accept a fly takes longer and requires more layout time.
Best bet is to BUY an appropriate lock from Jim Chambers and be done with it.

Dan

 

[mattybock]

I have no idea why the doglock... safety... catch thingy was abandoned. I'm guessing it was to save on metal supplies. Problem is that with buying a lock is they cost at least $140.
That's a lot of money. I could just build my own and save so much of what I ain't got.

I've reached a final decision. I'm replicate a lock I had questions about in an earlier thread, one that appears to be off a trade musket that had no safety notch at all.

Oh well, it was a nice idea while it lasted.

 

[Stophel]

That's a lot of money. I could just build my own and save so much of what I ain't got.

Well, at this point all I can say is I can't imagine you building anything, much less saving any money while you do it.

Is the steel free? Do you even know what types of steel are suitable? Can you harden and temper them? Do you know how? Can you do it for free? How are you actually going to cut out and shape all these parts? Borrow a milling machine? Lots of free hacksaw blades and files and lots and lots of elbow grease?

Making a lock from scratch is not a weekend kitchen table project. Not everyone is capable of making a lock or a gun even with all the necessary equipment and materials. Everyone here has informed you as to how locks function and you don't seem to get it.

But, knock yourself out. I'll be very interested in seeing the final product. And I'm real interested in how you are going to make yourself a barrel... and how you're gonna inlet all these parts into a stock blank (who knows how you'll come up with that). :idunno:

 

[cutshurt]

Well I think it would look a little weird ... but its your gun, if its what you want to do, dont worry what anyone else thinks ... I say go for it.

Darrel