Double barrel flintlock shotgun question

[Larry (Omaha)]

How many have a flint double shotgun in their collection? If so, how about a little info? Mine is a 12 gauge, Navy Arm's magnum barrels, L&R locks, with walnut stock. Just curious.
Flintlocklar :hmm:

 

[Pukka Bundook]

Mine is an 18-bore, not named on the locks but a Birmingam job, Nice twist barrels and hallmarked on the entry pipe for 1811.
French cocks, roller frizzens and waterproof pans.
I will take some photos one day. Only had it since 1982!

Richard.

 

[Feltwad]

How many have a flint double shotgun in their collection? If so, how about a little info? Mine is a 12 gauge, Navy Arm's magnum barrels, L&R locks, with walnut stock. Just curious.
Flintlocklar :hmm:

A stand of original D/B flintlocks from 1760-1810 in my collection
Feltwad

 

[TFoley]

A lovely selection of old-fashioned craftsmanship there, Sir.

Lucky for us forced to live here, possession of a single shotgun certificate means that you can acquire as many as you want or can afford.

An acquaintance of mine collects pre-1900 shotguns of all kinds, but only English-made, and has around three hundred.

tac

 

[Larry (Omaha)]

Wow!! Awesome!
Flintlocklar
:thumbsup:

 

[No Deer]

I have a Navy Arms (Pietta) 12 gage that started life as a percussion gun. I had it converted to flint lock. Unfortunately I am not talented enough to do it myself. It is a lot of fun to shoot. It has L&R locks which, quite frankly, needed a lot of work to get them to operate properly. Fortunately I have friends that are very good working on them. My preferred load for turkey is 75 grains 3f, 1 1/8 oz. #5 shot with over powder wad, cushion wad, and over shot card. I had mine jug choked, improved and modified. Patterns very well out to about 30 yards.

 

[George]

I have a 20 gauge double flint built in 1990 by J. T. Phillips of Arkansas. It has 32" tapered cylinder bore barrels by Getz, Cochran locks, and has always been a fun, dependable arm. I've taken mostly small game, squirrels, rabbit, doves, one quail, one turkey and one javelina with it. I've shot just about any load you can think of while experimenting with historic loadings, for both ball and shot. It's a delightful gun to hunt with.





Spence

 

[DickS]

I have a Navy Arms/Pietta double, and I look at the gun, and look at the photo of the flint conversion. I see how it was done, but don't know if I have the nerve to proceed...

 

[Rifleman1776]

Beautiful and rare collection.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Mine is an 18-bore, not named on the locks but a Birmingam job, Nice twist barrels and hallmarked on the entry pipe for 1811.
French cocks, roller frizzens and waterproof pans.
I will take some photos one day. Only had it since 1982!

Richard.

hotoSmile:

 

[Pukka Bundook]

Rifleman,
Yes, photos, but don't hold your breath...you might go a funny colour!

I am slow at getting at pictures. Will try and get some in the next while.

P-B.

 

[THBailey]

How many have a flint double shotgun in their collection? If so, how about a little info? Mine is a 12 gauge, Navy Arm's magnum barrels, L&R locks, with walnut stock. Just curious.
Flintlocklar :hmm:

A stand of original D/B flintlocks from 1760-1810 in my collection
Feltwad

Absolutely beautiful. Do you hunt with them once in a while?

 

[Feltwad]

How many have a flint double shotgun in their collection? If so, how about a little info? Mine is a 12 gauge, Navy Arm's magnum barrels, L&R locks, with walnut stock. Just curious.
Flintlocklar :hmm:

A stand of original D/B flintlocks from 1760-1810 in my collection
Feltwad

Absolutely beautiful. Do you hunt with them once in a while?

I did demonstrate with them when I did attend the Game and Country Fairs along with the big bore flint and percussion fowlers .
For game I like to use a s/b 12 flintlock on a small driven pheasant day and also pest control {crows ect}.
Feltwad

 

[Mickc01]

Wow, thanks for all the pictures of the beautiful shotguns!!!

 

[Pukka Bundook]

It's a long time since I saw any jackdaws, Old Lad!

Very nice single as well.

Richard.

 

[Feltwad]

It's a long time since I saw any jackdaws, Old Lad!

Very nice single as well.

Richard.

Jackdaws there is not hundreds but thousands of them they cause most of the damage to corn that is about ripe .When you get many hundreds of them plus crows they soon clean of a half acre of corn .At present they are in with the sheep or farm hopping .
Feltwad

The Breech Action Of A French 24 bore


The Locks

 

[Pukka Bundook]

Feltwad,

How are the rooks doing these days? Used to always nest in elm trees, but since Dutch Elm, there maybe isn't many left.

The French double you show;
It is always interesting trying to sort out what was what with French arms.
It Is Very Nice!
This one has older looking locks, and stocking, but apparently a First Empire pillar type trigger-guard.
Does it have a bottom rib?
Maybe the French used these guards before the early 19th C . What do you think?
The standing breech on this one of yours is very square, and looks early. I do admit, trying to date these is awfy difficult compared to English!
Does it have double loops for the barrel key? (One on each barrel?)

Sorry for all the Q's G.

I had one, Old, old locks, but converted to percussion, and re-stocked First Empire, plus the same style guard.

Richard.


I can't quite make out the name on the locks though. Can you enlighten me please?

 

[Feltwad]

Feltwad,

How are the rooks doing these days? Used to always nest in elm trees, but since Dutch Elm, there maybe isn't many left.

The French double you show;
It is always interesting trying to sort out what was what with French arms.
It Is Very Nice!
This one has older looking locks, and stocking, but apparently a First Empire pillar type trigger-guard.
Does it have a bottom rib?
Maybe the French used these guards before the early 19th C . What do you think?
The standing breech on this one of yours is very square, and looks early. I do admit, trying to date these is awfy difficult compared to English!
Does it have double loops for the barrel key? (One on each barrel?)

Sorry for all the Q's G.

I had one, Old, old locks, but converted to percussion, and re-stocked First Empire, plus the same style guard.

Richard.


I can't quite make out the name on the locks though. Can you enlighten me please?

Richard
Still plenty of rooks but not many elm trees since the disease they now favour the ash and beech also the sycamore .
The French double I take to be early the make is Labourde, Paris .The most unusual thing with this gun it does not have a wedge in the for end has most muzzle loaders .To secure the barrels to the stock there is a tube inside the for end escutcheon {see image]which slides both ways through a loop in the barrel and through the tube is the ramrod this is the first one in 69 years of collecting I have ever seen and is very rare.
Date wise I would also say early mostly on the stock dimensions and the barrel which is of iron about the late 1700.
Feltwad

 

[F.G. Ford]

Hello Feltwad,
If you ever get over to lower Canada, I wold like to take you woodcock hunting, and of course turkey.
Canada geese here are a pest, and their numbers are out of control.
Fred

 

[Feltwad]

Hello Feltwad,
If you ever get over to lower Canada, I wold like to take you woodcock hunting, and of course turkey.
Canada geese here are a pest, and their numbers are out of control.
Fred

Fred thank you for the offer, if you had asked me 40years ago I would have accepted. Getting a bit to old now my old legs will not stand it
Thanks
Feltwad