dueling pistols

[faw3]

Sorry I cant show you a link, as a knife fighting teacher I was allowed to see and then try this ....duh no word comes to mind. You use a very short thin sword like foil and stand on a 2 1/2'high round box, your hand with the blade is held back by your ear,(blade is maybe 14 to 16" long) it is face and you better know where the blade is going to be in 2 or 3 seconds or your going to get cut. I got a little one and gave one (mune would of been a bad cut because I crossed the blade,( I just remembered you can only move your wrist it's hooked to mask I belive) you wear a heavy leather mask with steel screen over the eyes just your cheecks and chin and in some place's forhead, I understood at the time it was not legal. Fred :hatsoff: (oh as a ps its not near as nuts as octgon fighting, Ive done both.) I was raised in the far east.

 

[PreglerD]

Oh now I know what you describe. This is the dueling method of the German students of the 18th and 19th century. They did so called Mensuren. These are duells with special swords called Rapir or Schläger and with special leather outfit and eyeglasses. There are special rules. In the most cases the oponents were hit in the face normally forehead or at cheeks.Today it is forbidden because it is heavy body injury after the German law.

 

[hawkeye1755]

Today it is forbidden because it is heavy body injury after the German law.

That's not right.Take a look:Scroll down to Juristische Klarstellungen Link
Sorry guys, it's only in German. :redface:
:v

 

[PreglerD]

So I read it, but the BGH said that it is only not illegal when the varoius restrictions are fullfilled and when it is not because of honour. That is the point which makes it suspect. Nobody of those student corps makes a mensur for[url] fun.In[/url] my time as officer in the German Armed Forces during the studies at the military academy munich it was strictly forbidden for all officers to take part in such mensures.

 

[faw3]

Thanks Kirrmeister and Undertaker, I didnt think for a second it was legal when the guy takeing me to watch kept turnning to look behind him every 3 or 4 steps, :rotf: ya would of thought we was going to rob a bank, Im still not sure if we are talking about the same thing since this was set up with a short sword or long thin knife with the hand held up at face level and was the only place you could cut, anyway very intresting and a long time ago ,guess its time to get back on to topic! Thanks all, Fred :hatsoff: (Kirrmeister these are really tuff guys but it was a good if not near frightning time)

 

[WRussell]

I'd like to hear the current known facts on the Hamilton-Burr duel. I read long ago that Hamilton did himself in by supplying pistols with "secret" set triggers. By Wogdon, they had single set triggers which had no external adjustment screw, so it wasn't obvious that they could be set. Hamilton thought he had an advantage, so the story went, because Burr didn't know about the set triggers, but dug his own grave by touching off his pistol a bit early.

Is that story now known to be BS?

 

[benvenuto]

Saw a lot of these type of cased target pistols when I was in Spain back in 1993.(Last trip to Spain they were no where in sight, thanks to changes in the law)
I have no idea who makes them, but probably someone in the Basque country near the town of Eibar who works in the old style. If I recall right, they were $US550 for a cased set and looked like mighty good value. I remember seeing them in a very upmarket souvenir shop in Toledo, and another (older and only a singelton) in an antique dealers in Madrid.
the only spanish makers I have been able to find on the net are http://www.avancargas-arsa.com/

 

[hawkeye1755]

I'd like to hear the current known facts on the Hamilton-Burr duel. I read long ago that Hamilton did himself in by supplying pistols with "secret" set triggers. By Wogdon, they had single set triggers which had no external adjustment screw, so it wasn't obvious that they could be set. Hamilton thought he had an advantage, so the story went, because Burr didn't know about the set triggers, but dug his own grave by touching off his pistol a bit early.

Is that story now known to be BS?

A little link: The Hamilton - Burr Duel
Link
:hatsoff:

 

[faw3]

Some years back, as in 10 or more the NRA mag had a few pages on the guns used, they had been taken apart to be redone, and yes they did find a trick trigger in one. I guess you would have to contact who ever has them now to see who did the clean up on them. Fred :hatsoff:

 

[faw3]

"Or is it? The US Historical society of Richmond , Va, in an effort to raise money decided to have replicas made of the famous pair of pistols held by the Chase Manhattan Bank. Merril Lindsay and Walther Agnoletto when dismantling the originals made a strange discovery. The trigger mechanism had been modified to enable to fire with a few grams pressure on the trigger instead of the 5 to 6kg usual in weapons of this type. The advantages to the user are obvious, speed and accuracy{" fRED :hatsoff: