Ethics

[Greenmtnboy]

Did you read the response from his friend SS(Silent Sniper) In this post he explains what actualy occured. His choice of wording in the post seem to be more factual. I am not defending what occured by no means. But here you mention possibly his father taught him this way. Would you like a stranger talking about your father?
The point I am trying to make is. None of us were there. Had any one of us seen this take place it would ,or could be entirely different.(A) As far as killing someone else deer, That is a deer shot and running off or being tracked by the original hunter then shot by a 2nd hunter who now trys to claim it. This is the violation . In this incident the boy asked someone in his party to dispatch the deer . (B) Tracking a wounded deer also has boundries to it. If that deer goes on to private property . You must obtain permission to continue to track it. If permission ia denied you did all you could as an ethicl hunter.NO SUMMONS WOULD BE ISSUED .Should you continue to follow this wounded game on this private property you can be charged with several violations yourself.

This topic can go on forever. Let the young man heal from his bashig here. I'm sure his next post will be given with more thought and less excitement. Let him now feel welcome here. I do.

I read Silent snipers post before I posted my response which said the doe was just grazed. :hmm:
how did they know? did they glass it later on feeding in a field,was it shot and found to have had a graze mark, I'm not trying to call :bull: but it does sound a bit odd.
I do agree lets let it end and move on. I just wanted to respond to the fact that I diden't take issue with his whole family just his hunting mentor.
Anyway I do hope he still post hunting stories just hope he learned that maby the way he hunts needs to change.
:thumbsup:

 

[Greenmtnboy]

You must obtain permission to continue to track it. If permission ia denied you did all you could as an ethicl hunter.

Just a note here. Here that would not be true. If you are denied permission, you then can notify the CO's or Environmental Police as they are now known, and they will escort you to the recovery of an animal.

Same here in CO Swampy, Land owners cannot stop you from game recovery if you killed your animal in a legal manor and after you notify the DOW.
By the brother how are you.
I was off guiding during your last bout. You doin' good?
glad to see you posting.
:thumbsup:

 

[rabjr]

Slow process Gman but the Nurses say I am on the mend. :thumbsup:

 

[Greenmtnboy]

good, hope you got a cute nurse, sure does help moral. :wink:

 

[Thing]

Here we go again. I said if (YOU) continue with out permission . Not with the presence of a CO.

 

[rabjr]

Here we go again. I said if (YOU) continue with out permission . Not with the presence of a CO.

You ended with this my friend and I only noted that here it would not be true and the hunter could then call a CO for further help in the matter.

If permission ia denied you did all you could as an ethicl hunter.

 

[ryanhogg]

Ethics are also a personal thing. I will say that i wouldn't shoot a running deer with a Ml but i would and have with a centerfire. To say that that it is enherently unethical to shoot running deer is hogwash. Just cause you can't dosent mean i can't. Im lucky enough to have a running target range so i've practised shooting running targets and i know my limits there.


P.S One thing that i dont like is that this forum has a In response thing. Whoever this is in response to ,dont take it as a personal response.

 

[John Wasmuth]

You can ruin a young man by condeming his entire family.

B@B thank you for you years of conservation service :bow:
I know it can be a damn hard job.
I diden't condem his whole famley I condemed the unmoral individual( his father) who taught him to hunt that way if it was his father.
I was taught very differently and I hold all woods recreators to the same high level of morality that I strive to obtain.
He said he shot, wounded and left a doe, and I quote, (well the guy in the woods said I hit one in the butt, I went back but diden't find her)why not? obviously he can't track or doesen't care enough to stop hunting long enough to find a ass shot deer. Then he shoot a doe poorly twice and his uncle finishes it. That alone is illigal having sombody elce shoot your deer.
Out here in CO leaving game is a crime and shooting other peoples deer is a crime.
I would hope if a Fish and officer was on the job, tickets would have been written and guns confiscated.
I really can't see how his post diden't sicken all forum members who read it and anybody who thinks his actions are justtfied needs to stay the hell out of my hunting woods.

So you now own the entire hunting woods? Did ya buy it all at once or in small chunks at a time?

 

[Thing]

I notice how you only show part of a thought. How about the rest of the sentence. No summons would be issued. Etc, etc, etc. Reminds me of the left wing media. Only catch part of a phrase or sentence .Play upon it ,twist it, so you can make your thoughts seem more reasonable. Do not call me your friend because I am not your friend. I have met many of your kind through the years. Nay sayers of evreything .

 

[rabjr]

I notice how you only show part of a thought. How about the rest of the sentence. No summons would be issued. Etc, etc, etc. Reminds me of the left wing media. Only catch part of a phrase or sentence .Play upon it ,twist it, so you can make your thoughts seem more reasonable. Do not call me your friend because I am not your friend. I have met many of your kind through the years. Nay sayers of evreything .

Oh for crist sake man, yee who preaches ethics. There was no need to post the rest because that part was obvious. The fact remains no where in your post did you say a hunter could then get help from a CO if permisson wasn't granted. I only pointed out that up here we have that option and a hunter who just gives up and goes home if the land owner says "no", isn't quite "ethical".

 

[Thing]

IM done with replys .