Ferocerium why not

[Crow#21957]

I'm always trying to think of an easier way.
Why cant we make flints from the same material that Ferocerium rods are made from.
I'm sure when it's explained to me I will have a DUH moment . Come on I really want to know why.

 

[TDM]

Never heard that question ask before. If your really curious and have a wet tile saw, use a diamond blade to shape and try it.

 

[Crow#21957]

Why not just put a ferocerium rod with a flat side and place it right down the center of the frizen(skunk stripe) Then it could be taken out and new one epoxies back in should it ever wear out. I know not PC. But hey if I had the tools you guys have and knew how to use them I would make my own. You know mill out a channel running down the frizzen
and JB weld a ferocerium rod in it.

 

[Crow#21957]

TDM yes I'm serious. I mean with the technology this great Nation has why couldn't we make this thing work. I'm
always having crazy off the wall ideas.
I am very curious though.

 

[Tom A Hawk]

I've heard of frizens being faced with ferocerium ( which is generally frowned upon) but in that case the ferocerium is being scraped by the sharp edge of the flint. If reversed and a piece of fero rod was struck upon the frizen...absolutely nothing would happen. No sparks, no how. To make sparks the fero rod is scraped with a sharp edge. Even flint.

 

[earlwb]

It ought to work but I think you need the Ferocerium rod embedded into the frizzen. Then use a knife blade or sharp flint to scrape along it to get the sparks. But maybe reversed would work if you can get the frizzen to scrape along the ferocerium.

 

[tenngun]

Maybe we could find some chemical that blew up when struck. Then we could stick this in little copper cups. And the cock could just stile it and set off the gun.
Even better we could put the cup in the bottom of a case made out of brass, with powder and ball already there, like a military cartridge, and load it at the breech in.
I recall some boys that got depleted uranium shoe on their frizzen. You could spark off hunks of limestone in the drive way.
Isn’t some of the draw of ml in general and any rock in the lock or match locks working within the limitations of a primitive system?

 

[TDM]

Isn’t some of the draw of ml in general and any rock in the lock or match locks working within the limitations of a primitive system?

Yes.

 

[Crow#21957]

TDM yes I'm serious. I mean with the technology this great Nation has why couldn't we make this thing work.

 

[Crow#21957]

I had it backwards. Yes the ferocerium would need to be impeded in the frizzen. I'm always behind times. It just seems like the flints wouldn't be as difficult for some of us to get good ignition from. Thanks for the replies

 

[TDM]

Crow, I really think it best to use some type of chert in the jaws of the cock and a hardened steel face on the frizzen. It’s worked fairly well for quite a few years now.

 

[Crow#21957]

I've just got to much time in my hands and a inquisitive mind.lol

 

[Tom A Hawk]

I've just got to much time in my hands and a inquisitive mind.lol

Build a gun.

 

[TDM]

Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Crow#21957]

Tomahawk,,, you got it.
And actually I'm waking on my stock and parts. Got a barrel and lock just itching to put in a gun.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Why not just put a ferocerium rod with a flat side and place it right down the center of the frizen(skunk stripe) Then it could be taken out and new one epoxies back in should it ever wear out. I know not PC. But hey if I had the tools you guys have and knew how to use them I would make my own. You know mill out a channel running down the frizzen
and JB weld a ferocerium rod in it.

Go ahead and do it. That's the way the original mountain men did it.

 

[Rawhide67]

Could make a frizzen with a replaceable wear plate of ferocerum. Like a brake shoe in a car. Would be far from traditional, so may as well put it in an all weather stainless gun with a composite stock like the TC firestorm.

 

[Shiloh]

No harm in experimenting.

 

[Freedom]

Its been done...pictures were posted on the forums around 20 years ago. One even rigged a Bic lighter type wheel to the cock.

 

[SOLANCO]

I had it backwards. Yes the ferocerium would need to be impeded in the frizzen. I'm always behind times. It just seems like the flints wouldn't be as difficult for some of us to get good ignition from. Thanks for the replies

When I NEED absolute reliability I will resort to an unmentionable. I do not keep a flintlock within reach in my bedroom.