Finishing nails for barrel pins

[deerstalkert]

Pretty easy to start an argument around here.

Why Phil! i thought it was understood that there were many ways to do something. The right way, my way, and all the others!

 

[sussexmuzllodr]

The only job of the barrel pins is to hold that light, skinny forearm to the barrel. That's it.

Recoil happens at the breech, where a good wood to metal fit is extremely important. And when recoil happens at the breech, the whole stock moves in turn. So the pins aren't absorbing the recoil.

They are supported in their whole length by wood, a barrel lug, and wood again... So it's not like they're supported only on the ends, and have to absorb recoil in the middle. If they were subject to a lot of recoil, it would be the wood (being the weakest link) that would fail.

The pins on my twenty eight year old .58 caliber longrifle are still as good as ever. Come to think of it, I've never heard of a barrel pin breaking or bending. I've heard of them falling out, but never compromised.

excellent summation!

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

Can’t you disagree WITHOUT name calling AND being disagreeable? Really? Agreeing to disagree is a mature approach, lol!

There’s many way to do barrel pins, I’ve used them all and have settled on the SS pin stock wire that MZL’ding Builders Supply sells, which is similar to the pin stock Jim Kibler provides in his kits, less Jim uses a plain ol’ carbon steel.

 

[tenngun]

I use six penny on the barrrel and four penny on the trigger guard, and Ram rod pipes
Brass pins don’t seem to have been very popular
I think any force that could cause a El cheapo nail pin to fail across its one inch length or so is going to be pretty hard on the rest of the gun.
Made my first pined gun thirty years ago still useing nails. My work ain’t up to snuff for sure, so maybe my flintlock building rights need be repealed
To which I say MOLON LABE
Tally Ho
Lay on with a will and damn be he who cries first enough.
Sorry getting carried away

 

[ord sgt]

There are no hard fast rules in custom rifle building. That's what makes each build unique. Inspiration makes for variety. No cookie cutter rifles or pistols. You and I may disagree with what someone may do, but in the end, it's their build.

 

[Eterry]

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[LongWalker]

Phil it,s been pretty testy around here lately...multiple yellow card,s from the mods for me....

LATELY???

I was recently foolish enough to ask questions about the stock in a kit I recently purchased. One of the participants in the thread thanked another and wrote "I need all the help I can get." Shortly after, I received an email in which the sender wrote that he'd help (that participant) and proud to! Then he went off in a profanity-laden tirade in which he stated he wanted to stab me in the gut with his Kabar, set my house on fire and watch me die.

Fun bunch of people here.

 

[sussexmuzllodr]

LATELY???

I was recently foolish enough to ask questions about the stock in a kit I recently purchased. One of the participants in the thread thanked another and wrote "I need all the help I can get." Shortly after, I received an email in which the sender wrote that he'd help (that participant) and proud to! Then he went off in a profanity-laden tirade in which he stated he wanted to stab me in the gut with his Kabar, set my house on fire and watch me die.

Fun bunch of people here.

I have in the past gone off track. To those offended...I apologize. I was admonished by the Mod,s and rightfully so. with the Political section aside....we should not be at each others throats in our Hobby...there.s plenty out there that are barking at us because of what we hold dear already. Sometimes we all go off half cocked...but it,s better then debating whom is the better sport,s team,s.....with this being said I will be better in content and character in what I post. There are many on here that contribute so much of their time earned Talent. I/we? can strive to do better.

 

[Tumbledown]

Pretty easy to start an argument around here.

No, it's not.

 

[sussexmuzllodr]

I can agree with many posts here that shooting the gun displaces the opposite and equal reaction to the rear of the Piece. I do not think that there would be so much torsional energy placed on the barrel pins as much as the tang and the bolster areas. After all the main energy is applied at the rear and diminishes slightly as the bullet leaves the barrel. as to what can pin a barrel in is MHO a matter of choice.....

 

[Tumbledown]

I have a repro Brown Bess that is almost 50 years old, with nails as pins. I have used straight sections from R-shaped clevis pin clips in my Traditions kits. Both are suitably strong for holding the wood to the barrel.

 

[PathfinderNC]

Are finishing nails suitable to use as barrel pins? I've got an old rifle that needs to be pinned.

I have several lengths of the wire from Jim Kibler’s kits that I have. Send me your address in a pm and I will mail some to you if you want. Also can send you the correct drill bit he included in the kits as well if you need that.
Bob

 

[sussexmuzllodr]

LATELY???

I was recently foolish enough to ask questions about the stock in a kit I recently purchased. One of the participants in the thread thanked another and wrote "I need all the help I can get." Shortly after, I received an email in which the sender wrote that he'd help (that participant) and proud to! Then he went off in a profanity-laden tirade in which he stated he wanted to stab me in the gut with his Kabar, set my house on fire and watch me die.

Fun bunch of people here.

Bottom line is get what makes you happy. If your not sure....THIS IS FOR THE MOST PART A PLACE YOU CAN TURN TO FOR HELP. Work with what you have and take it slowly. There is no shame in saying....I DONT KNOW AND I NEED HELP AND ADVICE. Ton of good Folks that will step up to the plate here on suggestion,s and advise. I cannot tell you on how many times I have walked away....more confident...and educated because I set aside pride and ask that simple question. Many Folks on here with years of experience and sound advise like a fruit ripe on the vine. Just gotta reach out and pick the fruit.

 

[longcruise]

My Ace carries a wide assortment of music wire. Nice thing about it is you can measure the wire and purchase a matching number drill in the same trip.

 

[2 shots]

if your are hunting with the gun i think stainless steel would be best if the gun may get rained or snowed on. if a pin rusts into the tenon and years later if you or someone tries to get it out could go bad.i have had that problem with some old originals. just sayin.

 

[Eutycus]

It don't have to be a finishing nail, any old nail will do. Afterall you'll be cutting off the head and using the "body" of the nail.

 

[stubshaft]

I use music wire also. I have a bunch of it from my RC Plane days.

 

[bud in pa]

I recently picked up a 12 inch length of 3/32 pin stock from Dixon's. I think it was a buck. As far as giving advise, unless I have done it myself and know that it works, I keep my mouth shut. Most of the trime i can't help myself.

 

[necchi]

Are finishing nails suitable to use as barrel pins?

No.
But if you are, just don't tell anyone, they'll never know the difference.

 

[TDM]

I prefer music wire, 1/16 and 3/32, but see nothing wrong with finishing nails. As said, a tight breech is what’s important.