First Flintlock options

[Silvertip8k]

Thanks folks for all the help...im going to look atound a bit based on suggestions here...im just pretty excited about having a flintlick round ball shoiter...it seems this is where 40 years of blackpowder has gotten me to...

 

[Marinekayak]

So I went with the cableas Blue Ridge .54. Initial impressions are good. Wood to metal fit was very good. Balance is nice. Lock seems to spark well. Definitly need to order a longer range rod and
Probably a replacement under barrel rod. Thats the only complaint is the supplied rod is flimsy. Need more flints. Did have a minor scratch in the wood on the fore arm from shipping but it seems to be only on the finish and should buff out. Lots of people seem to think the front sight is too thick. I thinks its ok and the rear sight notch is too small. I will probably open the notch up. Rifling seems a bit shallow compared to my traditions mountain rifle but deeper than my musketoon. A range report to follow.

 

[Silvertip8k]

Ok...after a lot of looking around...plus figuring out what i would have to do to convert one of my old t/c's to flint...i decided to do that...buy a new side lock flint...and buy pederosoli kit too...they arent cheap...but to be honest i really dont want a gun That isnt stocked with walnut ...and they have some nice wood in their kits
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I found the scout 50 cal on dixie gun works fills the bill...1:48 twist...not a 66 like i wanted ...buts going to be fine...my old tc 50s in 48 twist shoot round balls fine...mission accomplished...thanks for the help

 

[Kestrel]

Silvertip8k, my wife has the Pedersoli scout carbine in percussion and there aren't too many people that can out shoot her. Great shooting gun. You wont be disappointed

 

[Silvertip8k]

Good feedback...i know there are folks that are questioning period accuracy of a lot of muzzleloaders available...my attitude is one of enjoying the concept...

I have a few t/c hawkens...i always wanted a kentucky style...and the walnut stock pedersoli makes really clinched the deal for me...

Whats so ironic is that a company in italy is making firearms that are specific to our heritage...

I live off the grid in the rocky mountains...and truly do live where the things emulated now had some of their roots...its amazing for me to even consider going to buy something so far removed to re live the ecperience that started here...im just glad to find what i really wanted...i hope i can shoot it as good as your wife!

 

[Silvertip8k]

Follow up...im very grateful that in a very short time on The forum i have learned so much...found options for converting an old cap gun...found out real knowledge on certain products out there...and also learned a lot of things about things i thought i knew about...accolades to all!

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Whats so ironic is that a company in italy is making firearms that are specific to our heritage...

How about a company in Japan (Miroku) making gun barrels for shotgun companies like Browning, and previously making Bess and Charlevilles...when folks in Japan can't even buy them ??

LD

 

[Griz44Mag]

So I went with the cableas Blue Ridge .54. Initial impressions are good. Wood to metal fit was very good. Balance is nice. Lock seems to spark well. Definitly need to order a longer range rod and
Probably a replacement under barrel rod. Thats the only complaint is the supplied rod is flimsy. Need more flints. Did have a minor scratch in the wood on the fore arm from shipping but it seems to be only on the finish and should buff out. Lots of people seem to think the front sight is too thick. I thinks its ok and the rear sight notch is too small. I will probably open the notch up. Rifling seems a bit shallow compared to my traditions mountain rifle but deeper than my musketoon. A range report to follow.

You will not regret that decision. I have a Blue Ridge in .50 and a Frontier in .54. Both are very dependable and accurate. And I got the both of them for the price of 1 Kibler kit. Yup, the Kibler is great eye candy, that comes with a price. The quality of the Pedersoli guns is very good. I put my guns in the field, mesquite, cedars and sage. I would never do that with a gun I had well over a grand and a lot of man hours into. The enjoyment factor for me is in using the guns, and a lot less in the prestige factor.

 

[Henry2357]

I too have eyed the Blue Ridge as my first flint, and also read comments about the Kiblers. But, and a big but, it’s a kit, even though I guess an easy kit, made very well. But what some of you folks have to take into consideration, not all of us are “mechanical “ I used to have trouble building models as a kid, always glueing them more to my hands than together.
I have no patience, no place really to work on it, no tools, no time. (Work 2 jobs)
So while I agree it would be nice to have a kibler, it’s just not in the cards for some of us, as in having a builder build it, would cost way over my budget. Joe

ps. I guess I could check more into a Kibler, I guess you don’t need to use glue...could use the dining room table, if my wife would let me and have a beer or two for help with the patience, and call out sick now and then.

 

[3 trees]

I bought the Cabelas and was unhappy with it,,,broke the cast trigger guard while shooting it off a bench!!

 

[Grenadier1758]

Broke the trigger guard? That would be a story that we would want to avoid telling. I can see how a trigger guard might be broken as it work hardened while fitting to a stock during a build, but while shooting off a bench???

 

[Henry2357]

I understand the trigger guard broke, but is that the only complaint against it. I imagine a cast component striking the bench has the possibility of breaking if massed produced. If the cabelas was a pedersoli I’m sure they would send a new guard, or if another manufacturer I would contact them also.

 

[Kestrel]

How do you break your trigger guard while shooting from a bench??? 1000's of shots from a bench in my life and my trigger guard has never touched the bench......

 

[87TT]

Dropped?

 

[ugly old guy]

How do you break your trigger guard while shooting from a bench??? 1000's of shots from a bench in my life and my trigger guard has never touched the bench......

Better Question: "How do you break the trigger guard when shooting?"
Many several thousands of shots I've fired over the years, both ML and cartridge, long gun and handgun. From the bench and off-hand. I've never broke a trigger guard or any other part of the arm.
Fact is, I've never even seen or heard of a trigger guard, be it cast or forged, breaking while shooting before. It would take a heck of a blow - even with a hammer or mallet - to break one.

 

[user 13289]

I too have eyed the Blue Ridge as my first flint, and also read comments about the Kiblers. But, and a big but, it’s a kit, even though I guess an easy kit, made very well. But what some of you folks have to take into consideration, not all of us are “mechanical “ I used to have trouble building models as a kid, always glueing them more to my hands than together.
I have no patience, no place really to work on it, no tools, no time. (Work 2 jobs)...

Then you should save your nickels and keep your eyes open for a well-made gun by a chap who makes guns, some are available second-hand. I've seen all sorts of price points. If you're as bad as you say you are, the only way I'd recommend a kit, is In the White and those often can use some trimming down--which you could hire out-even hire out the finish work. Just make sure to hire gunmakers of the BP cloth. Other folks, furniture makers/modern guys just don't quite grasp the things we're after.