First impressions- Pedersoli Remington (new model army .44 revolver)

[Skirmisher]

I recently purchased a Pedersoli Remington (new model army) and am looking forward to shooting it as soon as it gets above freezing where I live .

Here are my initial observations after receiving it:
1. The cylinder lock up (at full cock) is very tight (tighter than my Uberti and Pietta new model armies).
2. The trigger pull is right at two pounds. It holds a two pound weight hung from the trigger. But at two pounds one ounce, the hammer falls.
3. Pedersoli recommends a .454 round ball, but I also plan on trying .457. It looks like .457 will seat without too much effort, and I'll expect better accuracy with .457 (better engagement in the rifling).


At ~3 times the cost of a Pietta or Uberti new model army, I suspect it will be worth the cost in terms of accuracy when shooting off hand. Right out of the box.

Has anyone else here shot a Pedersoli Remington revolver? What are your thoughts?

 

[M. De Land]

I recently purchased a Pedersoli Remington (new model army) and am looking forward to shooting it as soon as it gets above freezing where I live .

Here are my initial observations after receiving it:
1. The cylinder lock up (at full cock) is very tight (tighter than my Uberti and Pietta new model armies).
2. The trigger pull is right at two pounds. It holds a two pound weight hung from the trigger. But at two pounds one ounce, the hammer falls.
3. Pedersoli recommends a .454 round ball, but I also plan on trying .457. It looks like .457 will seat without too much effort, and I'll expect better accuracy with .457.


At ~3 times the cost of a Pietta or Uberti new model army, I suspect it will be worth the cost in terms of accuracy. Right out of the box.

Has anyone else here shot a Pedersoli Remington revolver? What are your thoughts?

Well I don't know never having looked one over or shot a Petersoli. I would strip it, clean and re-lube, check barrel cylinder gap width, look over the forcing cone and muzzle crown, run a plug gauge down bore to check for high spots and chamber alignment, check chamber mouth chamfer ( sharp edge removed) and hand throw by dragging your thumb on the cylinder lightly while cycling and see if it will index to the next bolt notch.without help.
Now it's time to get your loading components together, go to the range and sight it in .

 

[Blackpowderart]

No but I would love one. Probably get one someday

 

[AnotherHawkenGuy]

Had no idea Pedersoli made a new model army. Nice! Thanks for sharing.

 

[1861 Springfield]

they shoot no better than a uberti. mine was a disappointment

 

[Skirmisher]

they shoot no better than a uberti. mine was a disappointment

Shooting from a bench rest or off hand?
I love my Uberti new model army but with a 4 pound trigger pull (what it came with out of the box), I don't see it shooting better than the Pedersoli when shooting off hand.

The reason I purchased the Pedersoli was to shoot it for accuracy in competition (off hand).

 

[nick_1]

I absolutely feel that the limiting factor in the accuracy of my pietta 1858 is the trigger pull. If one had a good gunsmith the move would be to buy a pietta or Uberti and have it tuned. the $80 I spent on a trigger job from a local gunsmith was money thrown away. I think you need a gunsmith that specializes in tuning single actions. Most of them these days assemble AR 15s and call themselves gunsmiths.

 

[wiscoaster]

Interesting!! And is this a new offering for Pedersoli? Didn't know they offered revolvers. And what's with the matte finish? Standard or option? Looking forward to your range reports. And especially whether you'll conclude the extra price is worth it. Staying tuned .....

 

[FishDFly]

they shoot no better than a uberti. mine was a disappointment

Will you please share your disappointment.

Curious why.

 

[Skirmisher]

Interesting!! And is this a new offering for Pedersoli? Didn't know they offered revolvers. And what's with the matte finish? Standard or option? Looking forward to your range reports. And especially whether you'll conclude the extra price is worth it. Staying tuned .....

Pedersoli has sold it for more than a decade.

Frankly before buying it the matte finish was a turnoff (in terms of appearance) but it doesn't look bad in person. Matte is standard. Here's a side by side comparison with my Pietta Shooters model with a regular finish (Pedersoli on top, Pietta bottom). Pedersoli uses the matte finish to avoid glare... probably worthwhile if competing out in the open (as I do).

 

[D Yager]

I absolutely feel that the limiting factor in the accuracy of my pietta 1858 is the trigger pull. If one had a good gunsmith the move would be to buy a pietta or Uberti and have it tuned. the $80 I spent on a trigger job from a local gunsmith was money thrown away. I think you need a gunsmith that specializes in tuning single actions. Most of them these days assemble AR 15s and call themselves gunsmiths.

How true, you could send it Mike or myself and get it tuned properly. It's getting hard to find someone who really understands the single action revolvers.

 

[ZUG]

For general plinking and tin can targets any of the manufactured BP revolvers will do BUT for the person who wants to shoot for score in any competition then you MUST have it accurized by a COMPATANT single action gunsmith.

 

[nick_1]

There arnt any cap and ball matches around here that I am aware of. It's all single shot rifle or pistol. I would not be interested in a paper match for revolvers anyway. Steel speed shooting is the proper game for these things but not the giant rectangles that the CAS folks use. 8" steel plates @10 to 25 yards. 5 plates per stage. That's a super fun game.

 

[45D]

There arnt any cap and ball matches around here that I am aware of. It's all single shot rifle or pistol. I would not be interested in a paper match for revolvers anyway. Steel speed shooting is the proper game for these things but not the giant rectangles that the CAS folks use. 8" steel plates @10 to 25 yards. 5 plates per stage. That's a super fun game.

Yeah, not being able to do those 24 shots in less than 15 seconds is pretty silly . . .

Mike

 

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I too was unaware of these, but here they are.
https://www.davidepedersoli.com/en/products/remington-pattern

 

[nick_1]

I like that it's a fast twist.

 

[nick_1]

Mike, what 24 shots? only way I am getting 24 shots in 15 seconds with cap an ball revolvers is if I have 4 of them... with a 1911 I did used to shoot an el presedente (12 shots on 3 targets starting faceing away from targets, turn and fast draw, mandatory reload @10m) in the mid to low 5 seconds. fastest ever time in training not competition was 4.75sec with 1 dropped point...

 

[45D]

Mike, what 24 shots? only way I am getting 24 shots in 15 seconds with cap an ball revolvers is if I have 4 of them... I did used to shoot an el presedente (12 shots on 3 targets starting faceing away from targets, turn and fast draw, mandatory reload @10m) in the mid to low 5 seconds. fastest ever time in training not competition was 4.75sec with 1 dropped point...

Ummmmm, I'm talking about those "cowboy" shooters . . . with the cap and ball revolvers, bp leaver rifles and shotguns. Three different weapons, ten shots pistols, 10 shots rifles and 4 shots shot gun in less than 15 secs.
I'm sure you could do much better sir. This is just fodder fir the "little people" .

Mike

 

[nick_1]

Gawd no. I am never going to beat someone at their own game, Still don't respect the size of their targets at those distances. Simply suggesting that it would be really fun to shoot steel matches with cap and ball that are more interesting by using 8" plates. 5 targets, Minimum distance 10yrds max distance 25. Usually only one or two shots at the max distance in the whole match. I would be really surprised if there wasn't folks out there that can do 3 second runs. I suspect if someone organized an invitational match and put up some real prize money the top cowboy action shooters would be turning in sub 3 second runs before too long.

That is the style of match that I would like to soot personally because I find it fun. I don't know that there is any cowboy action near me and the events that they did have a few years ago that fizzled out required 3 guns. If you want better attendance have side matches for beginners that only require one gun.

 

[Smokerr]

I could get into that. I would use the ROA as it has by far the best sight picture of any of my pistols, BP or not.

Well my 47 Walker would be the backup gun. I could pull it and throw it and knock targets down! I will have to try shooting it free hand one of these days, its a heavy beast and I no longer have arms of steel.