fixing loose barrel pin

[nhmoose]

Any fine gun that is $$$ any gunsmith worth his $$$ DON"T USE SUPERGLUE!I just can see Pen School of Gunsmith using SUPERGLUE.

So naive!

 

[M. De Land]

I think I would turn and bore some small cylindrical brass or mild steel bushings a bit bigger in diameter than the pins and glass bed them into the stock after fitting them to the pins.
Course they could be compression fit to the wood or hide glued in place if modern glue gives you heart burn.

 

[gwalker]

Geeze....everybody needs to step back, take a few deep breaths, and relax. Just use the bees wax like I suggested and move on with your life...

 

[don hepler]

We're in the process, of skinning a cat. :idunno:

 

[Black Hand]

We're in the process, of skinning a cat. :idunno:

True.
The difficult part is convincing some that a knife will work better than a hammer....:wink:

 

[vulture]

No the hard part is getting the cat to stand still while you skin it.....sorry just had to say that.

 

[jbwilliams3]

My suggestion would be to use beeswax - you only need a tiny amount and it should keep the pin snug. I've done this on a couple guns and it works like a charm while also keeping the pins removable should you ever need to remove the barrel.

 

[crockett]

I'd go with the beeswax. QUESTION....on the slight bending of the pin. The ends of the pin should be rounded but even then, is there any danger with a bent pin chipping out wood on the far side of the stock?

 

[Black Hand]

....on the slight bending of the pin. The ends of the pin should be rounded but even then, is there any danger with a bent pin chipping out wood on the far side of the stock?

YES!
There is NO guarantee the pin will follow the hole and you could end up with a blow-out. This is why I've been against this particular solution all along. It might work with keys, but is a VERY bad idea with a pin...

 

[crockett]

Although it seems like a lot of work, probably the best repair is a new tenon with properly located hole. This ought to pull the barrel down tight and also hold the pin.

 

[Vaino]

Such a simple "fix" and yet so many complicated fixes. If I were to spend all this time on a loose bbl lug pin, I'd get nothing done. Common sense is all it takes....it's not rocket science.....Fred

 

[matt denison]

Such a simple "fix" and yet so many complicated fixes. If I were to spend all this time on a loose bbl lug pin, I'd get nothing done. Common sense is all it takes....it's not rocket science.....Fred

Now stop that! You'll ruin everyones fun.

 

[M. De Land]

Do what ever you want, I'm going to, as mine are getting loose in my under-hammer forearm and I'll make two, small cylindrical bushings with the inside open of each coned as I described earlier.
The plan is to make them scarcely larger in diameter than the pin, just large enough to snugly fill the worn hole through the wood.
The forearm is removed each time to clean the gun as powder residue gets cap blasted up under neath the rear of it so the pins wear out the wood hole quite fast and bees wax is not going to hold the forearm rigid enough to suit me.

 

[Walks with fire]

I never bend pins to fit. You didn't say what kind of rifle it was but I felt your referring to a hooked breech removable barrel. My way to fix them is put a small bead of glass bedding on each side of the slot and then put the pin in most of the way but not fully tapped in until it sets. It should be fit perfect after it is dry but if it's a little too snug pushing it all the way in then sand the bedding lightly until it fits firmly.

Fix it any way you like but it should still be able to move side to side.

 

[Stumpkiller]

And if you don't take them out they don't get loose.

 

[Pete G]

And if you don't take them out they don't get loose.

:thumbsup: I think we have a winner....

 

[crockett]

In other words folks are using pins with a hooked breech? I thought with pins once they were in you normally never removed the barrel.

 

[M. De Land]

I don't know about others but I have never seen a gun of any type that does not get moisture, fouling and dirt down under the wood over time and use.
I like to use RIG grease under all stock wood to protect the metal from corrosion but take them all down at least once a year if being used to check on them.
In the case of the one underhammer gun using a pinned forearm it always has fouling under it near the nipple area and needs cleaned after every session.
Most full stock guns need it too if the truth be told as it is almost impossible to keep out all moisture and fouling when cleaning or using them in the field.

 

[Black Hand]

I don't know about others but I have never seen a gun of any type that does not get moisture, fouling and dirt down under the wood over time and use.

I've read a few people remove their barrel once a year or after they have hunted in the wet. I just filled the space with wax toilet bowl gasket material - no moisture and no need to remove the barrel.

There really is no reason to remove a pinned barrel every time you clean. Even if moisture gets under the barrel, it will dry...

 

[M. De Land]

True, I can't see our for fathers taking their pins out each night cleaning under the stock by fire light. "Oh shoot now where did that pin go"!
It just depends on what level of cleanliness one is comfortable with when a gun is put away.
If I were in their shoes I suspect I would have done just as they did because keeping a fire arm ready at all times meant life or death.
We on the other hand have the luxury of much easier methods and products of clean up than was available to them and live in a far less violent society.