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Slightly OT: The muzzleloading gods must have harbored a deep sense of historical/period correctness when two fellas showed up at our range's site in day with a 'scoped ML (cap lock). They loaded it, set it on bags fore and aft and touched off the shot. Lo and behold, the scope went flying through the air and crashed to the ground, much to the chagrin of the owner. They left shortly thereafter. Poetic justice anyone?
 
You would think that people interested in such an historic hobby as black powder shooting would go to the trouble to learn some of the history. A strange idea in today's world, of course.

Charles Wilson Peale, the preeminent portrait painter of the Revolutionary period, put a telescopic sight on a flintlock in 1775. His notes about it are at this link.

allthingsliberty.com/2013/07/charles-willson-peales-riffle-with-a-tellescope-to-it/

In 1808, Henry Beaufroy described the use of telescopic sights on flintlock rifles in England.

_Scloppetaria: or Considerations on the nature and use of rifled barrel guns, with reference to their forming the basis of a permanent system of national defence, agreeable to the genius of the country_, by Capt. Henry Beaufroy, 1808 [Henry Benjamin Hanbury Beaufroy] Originally published as _Scloppetaria, by a Corporal of Riflemen_.
“Others again have had a small telescope instead of an after-sight: the accuracy with which shooting may be conducted by this manner, is amazing; for although it required much trouble to arrange the apparatus for any particular distance, yet once done, the bullets would cut repeatedly one into the other, and not infrequently a second shot would so completely pass through a former, as scarcely to leave any additional indentation on the edge. Their liability to be out of order, however, has precluded their frequent introduction; the sight being adjusted by means of two cross wires in the tube of the telescope, similar to those used for transit instruments, the very jar of the piece firing will very soon alter their position, and consequently their accuracy can no longer be depended upon.”

Spence
 
You would think that people interested in such an historic hobby as black powder shooting would go to the trouble to learn some of the history. A strange idea in today's world, of course.

Charles Wilson Peale, the preeminent portrait painter of the Revolutionary period, put a telescopic sight on a flintlock in 1775. His notes about it are at this link.

allthingsliberty.com/2013/07/charles-willson-peales-riffle-with-a-tellescope-to-it/

In 1808, Henry Beaufroy described the use of telescopic sights on flintlock rifles in England.

_Scloppetaria: or Considerations on the nature and use of rifled barrel guns, with reference to their forming the basis of a permanent system of national defence, agreeable to the genius of the country_, by Capt. Henry Beaufroy, 1808 [Henry Benjamin Hanbury Beaufroy] Originally published as _Scloppetaria, by a Corporal of Riflemen_.
“Others again have had a small telescope instead of an after-sight: the accuracy with which shooting may be conducted by this manner, is amazing; for although it required much trouble to arrange the apparatus for any particular distance, yet once done, the bullets would cut repeatedly one into the other, and not infrequently a second shot would so completely pass through a former, as scarcely to leave any additional indentation on the edge. Their liability to be out of order, however, has precluded their frequent introduction; the sight being adjusted by means of two cross wires in the tube of the telescope, similar to those used for transit instruments, the very jar of the piece firing will very soon alter their position, and consequently their accuracy can no longer be depended upon.”

Spence

That's it. I want me a Peale gun.
 
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Scopes on Muzzleloaders is bad!!
mmmmkay 🥴
 
Funny but somehow that doesn't look like a flintlock to me.
Oh, okay, so just take any similar ground level gun, like any gun from traditions, CVA, etc. They'll all fit this scope, their aren't many of them, only the Kentucky, the Hawken, the Crockett, pretty well every rifle on those sites that isn't modern. Pick one. Yeah pick any one of all of those guns, you need to be extremely specific with the one you pick. Now scroll a click down. WOW ITS THE SAME EXACT GUN BUT A FLINTLOCK. Now just put this on that flintlock. Tadaaaaa.
 
Oh, okay, so just take any similar ground level gun, like any gun from traditions, CVA, etc. They'll all fit this scope, their aren't many of them, only the Kentucky, the Hawken, the Crockett, pretty well every rifle on those sites that isn't modern. Pick one. Yeah pick any one of all of those guns, you need to be extremely specific with the one you pick. Now scroll a click down. WOW ITS THE SAME EXACT GUN BUT A FLINTLOCK. Now just put this on that flintlock. Tadaaaaa.
I just thought it might be one of them thar new fangled flintlocks........ :)
 
Slightly OT: The muzzleloading gods must have harbored a deep sense of historical/period correctness when two fellas showed up at our range's site in day with a 'scoped ML (cap lock). They loaded it, set it on bags fore and aft and touched off the shot. Lo and behold, the scope went flying through the air and crashed to the ground, much to the chagrin of the owner. They left shortly thereafter. Poetic justice anyone?
This kind of event is not uncommon in human physiology. At times, one's digestive track will violently reject a foreign substance after swallowing. Likewise, the body tends to reject foreign organs after transplant. The muzzleloader was just trying to protect itself.........lol
 

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