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I rewatched the video at the top and noticed that the wheellocks have internal dog springs. For anyone curious how that works, here is an example of a very similar lock:
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Beyond magnificent! The dog spring obviously has the objective keeping the dog rigid, from flopping or moving and banging against the primer cover when on horseback or running. Beautiful workmanship...clockwork at its best! Is that original XVIIc or later mfg.? Machining is perfection. Even the screws aren't buggered up....thanks TopJohn! Looks like the same lock maker as the one in the video, however that one is not engraved. Looks like a handgun lock or maybe a short carbine? Does not have a rear saddle ring screw hole. If we had measurements maybe more conclusive?
 
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Beyond magnificent! The dog spring obviously has the objective keeping the dog rigid, from flopping or moving and banging against the primer cover when on horseback or running. Beautiful workmanship...clockwork at its best! Is that original XVIIc or later mfg.? Machining is perfection. Even the screws aren't buggered up....thanks TopJohn! Handgun or carbine?
I took the picture from this post:
Ethnographic Arms & Armour - View Single Post - A 1548 Nuremberg Dagger-grip Over-and-Under Double Wheellock Pistol
It is original.

"Handgun or carbine?"
There are surviving "pistols" with these locks that are over 30 inches long, so the answer to that is... both?
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The dog spring obviously has the objective keeping the dog rigid, from flopping or moving and banging against the primer cover when on horseback or running.
More so to the design intent, the dog spring is held at its MAXIMUM pressure when against the pan cover, so that after the wheel begins to spin up to its maximum RPMs, the pyrite is slammed down into the spinning wheel with force. It doesn't just 'drop' ...
 
More so to the design intent, the dog spring is held at its MAXIMUM pressure when against the pan cover, so that after the wheel begins to spin up to its maximum RPMs, the pyrite is slammed down into the spinning wheel with force. It doesn't just 'drop' ...
The lock I posted even has a little scallop cut on the inner part of the dog, to help facilitate that
 
Do you know what museum the wheellock and bandolier are from?
Isn't that the elector of Saxony guards crest in the flask ? ,( the rifle with a nude on the tool box lid has the trigger guard back to front ) even so.. I wouldn't decline it .Never understood the awkward' sticky out 'powder flasks but suppose they got the game run by them rather than the other way round . I don.t see a hunting sword .Probably because there isn't one. All good 'eye candy' anyway .
TobJohn....you are absolutely amazing!
He's only saying that because its true
Rudyard
 
Isn't that the elector of Saxony guards crest in the flask ? ,( the rifle with a nude on the tool box lid has the trigger guard back to front ) even so.. I wouldn't decline it .Never understood the awkward' sticky out 'powder flasks but suppose they got the game run by them rather than the other way round . I don.t see a hunting sword .Probably because there isn't one. All good 'eye candy' anyway .

He's only saying that because its true
Rudyard
The description does say it was an electoral guards gun, so right one the money!
 
These auction folks listed many 18th century wheelocks, highly decorated...no clue to the pricing as I did not want to register....however, how remarkable and ornate these firearms are! At the lower screen it will scroll through many, many incredible wheelocks for sale.....Your thoughts on pricing? enjoy!

https://curator.org/item/c604efbf804da9633771278fa4c5ed25
I've seen the all original Italian wheellock long guns go for $4,000-$10,000.

You should check past auctions at Hermann Historica and Czerny's, to get a general ballpark for wheellock prices.
 
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FWIW I may invest (there is a charge) in the subscription to Invaluable, as they list all the items from the major auction houses and then one could look at all the past auctions and download the high-res pictures. I also use www.invaluable.com for all my auction bidding and purchases. It's been great! I've won 4 so far ... but have never bid up on a complete wheellock ... gulp :ghostly: !
 
FWIW I may invest (there is a charge) in the subscription to Invaluable, as they list all the items from the major auction houses and then one could look at all the past auctions and download the high-res pictures. I also use www.invaluable.com for all my auction bidding and purchases. It's been great! I've won 4 so far ... but have never bid up on a complete wheellock ... gulp :ghostly: !
Oh yeah, good idea.

For those that don’t know, invaluables is an auction aggregator that includes the two companies I listed.
 
Honest truth. I would look at any of them.it amazes me to look at older gun and seeing how much things have changed from the past.


Here are some other giant pistols that fit the bill:
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ChristiesTerzaruolo1.jpg

HapsburgTerzaroulo.jpg

RATerzaroulo1.jpg

From what I've read, these types of guns were used in a similar way to cavalry carbines, with a couple sources highlighting the cuirassiers, which at this time period looked like knights with guns, as the main users. They would be an addition to the slightly more manageably sized pistols. The bottom one is probably just for sporting use, however

And a hunting gun that also illustrates how much things have changed:
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Here are some other giant pistols that fit the bill:
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From what I've read, these types of guns were used in a similar way to cavalry carbines, with a couple sources highlighting the cuirassiers, which at this time period looked like knights with guns, as the main users. They would be an addition to the slightly more manageably sized pistols. The bottom one is probably just for sporting use, however

And a hunting gun that also illustrates how much things have changed:
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Never imagined anyrhing like this.thank you for the pictures
 

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