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[akapennypincher]

Well I just got home from Ben Avery Shooting Facility in Phoenix, where the NMLRA was holding it Western National Shoot, and in the Registration Area they had some back issues of Muzzle Blast. for FREE

Got like the last THREE Issues, and some Issue from Late 2005. Should be interesting reading.

The turnout of Participants (shooters) today looked real poor, someone mentioned to me they hear the Pre Registration was only 130. Think we were busier at the Public Range

Plus there was only about 20 Traders on Trader Row, unlike year ago when the number was like 125.

So if you happen to be near Ben Avery in PHX, swing by and you might also score some Free Back Issues of Muzzle Blast :blah:

 

[trent/OH]

If the turnout is really that low, then also register and shoot. You may well come away with a National Shoot championship to your credit.

 

[akapennypincher]

Today is only the first day but the place looked kind of empty compared to the memories of the crowds 1999 & 2000 all week of the shoot.

Twelve noon on Traders Row was like visiting the Famous California Ghost Town of Calico. Nothing was happening, and not too many people were moving around.

Funny thing is a guy who also volunteers as a R/Oat the public range, apparently was Winter Shoot coordinator in the Early Years of the Winter Shoot. Years 2-6, and he too is an Ex Member.

He was reminiscing about how thing were in the 2nd.-6th. year of the Winter Shoot when he was the Coordinator. He state one year they had over 1,000 ++ Shooter, Cabella's have their portable Showroom at the shoot, Bands Playing in the Evening, Chuck Wagon Suppers, a Full Camp Ground, and Primitive Camp. Plus Major Corporate Sponsor of the Shoot made it possible for many of the matches to pay a CASH PRIZE. The Media gave the shoot a lot over coverage, and they had spectator by the drove.

But apparently when he stepped down and passed the coordinator job to his successor, the shoot start to fall in attendance, shooters, and traders.

Registering would cost too much, plus I am no longer a Member of the NMLRA, and would never Join again, as the Organization is shall we say Mid West, Eastern focused. Plus i still have a lot of BAD FEELING about the 2000 WNS Profits being Spent on a frozen Yogurt Machine that sit in Some director Camp in Friendship.

 

[Stony]

...plus I am no longer a Member of the NMLRA, and would never join again, as the Organization is shall we say Mid West, Eastern focused. Plus i still have a lot of BAD FEELING about the 2000 WNS Profits being Spent on a frozen Yogurt Machine that sit in Some director Camp in Friendship.

Pennypincher, can you provide a reference (i.e. a web site) on how those WNS profits were spent? I'm not accusing you of anything but I'd like to see something a little more solid. It is possible that you were mis-informed. The reason I ask is that I've seen several comments that are anti-NMLRA in nature and I've just joined. I haven't heard any of these "problems" before and if possible, I'd like to see what can be done to correct them. If the profits were spent like you said, while it might not be possible to return those profits, at least we could get the yogurt machine back out there so folks wouldn't die from all that heat. :winking:

 

[TANSTAAFL]

We live across the state over on the river, were going to go over for a couple of days and peruse the event. A like minded friend in Phoenix went out for a look see, he told me he was more than a little dissapointed, so we vetoed the idea.

 

[akapennypincher]

The story of the Yogurt Machine was posted here long ago.
[url] http://members.boardhost.com/PPPP[/url]

By an NMLRA Director from Indiana

Sadly the archive are no longer on the board.

 

[Zonie]

Well, I'll go mosey around there tomorrow for awhile.

I don't know if I should take credit but what the H! If I don't nobody will :grin:
Two weeks ago I wrote the Ariz Republic Sports Editor to make him aware of the event. My message included dates and phone numbers for information.
Then last week when I didn't see anything about it in the paper, I forwarded my message to the Outdoors Event EMail address.
Today, in the entertainment supplemental under EVENTS there it is!
To the best of my knowledge, that's the first time in 3 years anything at all about the shoot has been mentioned in the local newspaper.

Hopefully enough people will show up to pay the vendors for showing up and their trouble.

 

[akapennypincher]

To the best of my knowledge, that's the first time in 3 years anything at all about the shoot has been mentioned in the local newspaper.

Well if you want Press, and Media coverage you got to put out a Press Kit, and have something like a Media Day where the Press is invited out to do some shooting of Historical muzzleloading Firearms. note i did not sat the dirty word the PRESS HATES GUNS.

I bet if you go find the current NMLRA President at Ben Avery. Winston Roland, and I may have BUTCHERED his name, and ask him if you could see a COPY of the Press Kit sent to all Phoenix Television Stations, Newspapers, and Radio Station.

I bet you will get an answer like what press kit, or contact the office. Bet a Cold BEER, no Press kit was sent out of Friendship HQ.

Best way to get Press is to hire a local P.R. Firm that has “IN” with the Press, let them do the Press kit, and necessary SMOOZING to get the press out.

P.S.

Worked Freelance in the News biz, and a Fancy pess Ket gets Press, and sometime FREE Advertising as a Spin off of News coverage....


FYI

SASS's Winter Range every year get covered in theAZ Repulbic, T.V., and Radio Stations. As they have a Media Day during winter Range, and a Media liaison who work with, and work the media for coverage.

 

[Zonie]

Well now, jus how ta hel are they going to be able to afford a Press Kit when the Yogert Machine is actin up again??? :grin: :rotf: :rotf:

I went out today and will say there did seem to be fewer shooters but the Traders Row isn't much (if any) smaller than it was last year.

I even sit thru the lecture about cannons and watched them touch of 1/3 of a pound in one of them. :grin:

 

[akapennypincher]

Well now, jus how ta hel are they going to be able to afford a Press Kit when the Yogert Machine is actin up again??? :grin: :rotf: :rotf:

I went out today and will say there did seem to be fewer shooters but the Traders Row isn't much (if any) smaller than it was last year.

I even sit thru the lecture about cannons and watched them touch of 1/3 of a pound in one of them. :grin:

Well on of the other Public Range R/O's at BASF was the WNS Coordinator during the Early Years of the SHOOT when they had a Trader Row 4 Isle wide the Length of the Parking Lot where Trader row now sits, and half the are is for parking.

Bet year had over 1,000 + Registered Shooters, and many Corporate Sponsor that made for some money prizes, and prizes of value for the Shooter.

Plus Cabbala's was there with their traveling store, and too many other thing that most of the old time R/O’s @ BASF Remember. Lots of Media coverage.

Funny how can start of and race like a house of fire, and just die like the WNS has done the last 3 or 4 years. Maybe the 2006 will be the last WNS if they can make e=noght profit to justify the shoot.

Hear the Association Membership in tetering between 14-15K Currently, from 21K in 1999? Thsat isa loss of 1/3 of the paying members.?

 

[bpbrs]

According to MB last issue membership was at just over 18,000.

 

[akapennypincher]

According to MB last issue membership was at just over 18,000.

What month was that February?

 

[bpbrs]

March 2006 issue
page 22 reads total for Feb 1 2006 18,678

 

[akapennypincher]

Well i did not see the March Issue so i can only guess the number is close to that.

 

[user 2647]

Yep 18,678 is what it lists as total.

 

[Zonie]

That's what mine says too! Simply amazing!


Hay (Moderator) Gary: The March issue arrived here in Phoenix today so you ought to be seeing your copy up there in San Francisco three or four weeks from now! :grin: :rotf:

 

[akapennypincher]

Yep 18,678 is what it lists as total.

I still believe the Number is Lower than that according to information supplied my by an EX NMLRA Director who I trust more than the NMLRA BOD.... :v Or the Ex Pizza Hut Girl running Muzzle Blast & NMLRA Publications.... :blah:

 

[bpbrs]

Yea well tell ya what; I belong to another national outfit.

They have a bunch of "Ex" experts also who claim to know everything.
Except they left leaving the rest of us to try and repair the damages they created.
Odd in a way those "Ex" experts are still claiming to know everything but can never give real dates, times, numbers nor the names of the contacts.
Evidently if the Ex leadership had been leaders they would have ensured those that followed would have been well trained to take over.

I see most outfits now the "Ex" experts who many were/are part time members never wanted to relinquish how things ran, who were the good business contacts and the proper protocols.

Worse than that are the 30 yr life member who just decided to get involved and now question everything including bylaws and never have read the bylaws of the association.

Even better is when one resigned to take on a paid position it was OK. When another had to resign to take on a paid position it was an evil underhanded deal.


Big difference in Managers and Leaders one is worried about money the other about his people attaining the goal.

Me thinks people who continually degrade, contradict and talk about the good old days need to leave those of us who are doing the job alone.
Why; because you never really did do anything to begin with other than piss and moan till you got your way..then left it up to others to complete the task you left uncompleted.

I Think the term is micro-management..the fear of letting people succeed because if they do it will show that you can’t do the job. :shocked2:

 

[akapennypincher]

Yea well tell ya what; I belong to another national outfit.

They have a bunch of "Ex" experts also who claim to know everything.
Except they left leaving the rest of us to try and repair the damages they created.
Odd in a way those "Ex" experts are still claiming to know everything but can never give real dates, times, numbers nor the names of the contacts.
Evidently if the Ex leadership had been leaders they would have ensured those that followed would have been well trained to take over.

I see most outfits now the "Ex" experts who many were/are part time members never wanted to relinquish how things ran, who were the good business contacts and the proper protocols.

Worse than that are the 30 yr life member who just decided to get involved and now question everything including bylaws and never have read the bylaws of the association.

Even better is when one resigned to take on a paid position it was OK. When another had to resign to take on a paid position it was an evil underhanded deal.


Big difference in Managers and Leaders one is worried about money the other about his people attaining the goal.

Me thinks people who continually degrade, contradict and talk about the good old days need to leave those of us who are doing the job alone.
Why; because you never really did do anything to begin with other than piss and moan till you got your way..then left it up to others to complete the task you left uncompleted.

I Think the term is micro-management..the fear of letting people succeed because if they do it will show that you can’t do the job. :shocked2:

I see a lot of words, they seem to say nothing. Make you point as you post is Confusing.

 

[Runner]

Maybe the inliners are actually joining to support their organization now that they own it. That might account for the numbers going up.