Goex cannon powder

[pargent]

I have been given a can of goex cannon powder ,I was going to burn it up in my Pedersoli Bess when I get it (waiting on the PTA ).I do intend on using 2f as a standard powder. Anyone out there have any thoughts,I do know it will give less velocity. :idunno:

 

[Rifleman1776]

Can't say fer sure. But it may be so big it will give ignition problems.
I have a can of Swiss 1 1/2 Fg. that just doesn't like to ignite at all. I was trying to use it up while getting acquainted with my new fowler. Ignition was near impossible. I thought it was the gun. Then I switched to 3Fg and ignition is very reliable, like it should be.
Mebbe save and trade to a cannon guy.

 

[ohio ramrod]

Yep trading to someone with a cannon is the best way to go.Cannon powder is really big stuff! :idunno:

 

[cynthialee]

why not screen it down to 2f or 3F granulation?

or is that anouther dumb idea from the peanut gallery?

:idunno:

 

[ohio ramrod]

I tried it once when I won a can at a shoot. A lot of time and work involved to "grind " it down. Also due to safery concerns "regrinding " powder is not recomended for significant quanities. I have used two wooden spoons to grind FF into a fine priming powder but it took hours to do about three hundered grains , five to seven grains at a time. :idunno:

 

[Farmerted]

A friend, new to black powder, bought a can last year by accident. I can use it in both rifle and revolver by putting five grains of 2f first. I don't recommend it though. It's nasty dirty and gives inconsistent accuracy for my taste. Somebody here was having some success, so maybe a search will turn up better info.

 

[BrownBear]

...I was going to burn it up in my Pedersoli Bess when I get it (waiting on the PTA )....

I'd sure be tempted to try it. My Pedersoli Bess shoots so much better with 1f than 2f, I've always been curious about Cannon. Probably have to use something else for prime, but I'm amazed how well 1f works for priming my Bess. Must be something to do with that big old pan on the Bess.

 

[mooman76]

I got a can of 1f by mistake and didn't notice until over a year later. I pal on mixing if with ff or fff to see how it does just to use it up.

 

[BrownBear]

I got a can of 1f by mistake and didn't notice until over a year later. I pal on mixing if with ff or fff to see how it does just to use it up.

If you are launching shot out of any smoothbore, I'd sure try it as-is before doing any mixing. My 20, 12 and 10 gauge shotguns all pattern much better with 1f than either 2f or 3f. Worth a try, in any case.

 

[mooman76]

I don't have a smooth bore but I do have a 58 and it's always fun trying new things to see how well they work.

 

[RADeO]

Many years ago I tried some 1fg in my CVA 12 gauge SxS and found it to be VERY dirty. :barf:

I imagine cannon powder would be even dirtier yet, but you won't know for sure until you give it a try.

 

[Zonie]

why not screen it down to 2f or 3F granulation?

or is that anouther dumb idea from the peanut gallery?

:idunno:

No, it's not a dumb idea but if the powder maker did his job right you won't get much of the finer grained powder.

Finding a screen with the right openings might be a little hard to do too.

 

[pargent]

Thanks guys I will give it a try,I have heaps of 2f so I wont try to sive it ,if it wont ignite I will pass it on to a cannon shooter.

 

[Rifleman1776]

...I was going to burn it up in my Pedersoli Bess when I get it (waiting on the PTA )....

I'd sure be tempted to try it. My Pedersoli Bess shoots so much better with 1f than 2f, I've always been curious about Cannon. Probably have to use something else for prime, but I'm amazed how well 1f works for priming my Bess. Must be something to do with that big old pan on the Bess.

You must have a 1/4" touchhole. :shocked2:

 

[BrownBear]

...I was going to burn it up in my Pedersoli Bess when I get it (waiting on the PTA )....

I'd sure be tempted to try it. My Pedersoli Bess shoots so much better with 1f than 2f, I've always been curious about Cannon. Probably have to use something else for prime, but I'm amazed how well 1f works for priming my Bess. Must be something to do with that big old pan on the Bess.

You must have a 1/4" touchhole. :shocked2:

Nah, just more of an inclination to test things than accept speculation and "fact" on the web. I suspected that waaaaaaaaaay back when the originals were being designed and tested, powder sources, quality and granulation were quite variable, yet the guns had to work with it all. Shooting lots of different powders with my modern version supports that supposition. It's about the most forgiving lock I know of for prime.

 

[gmww]

I wonder how well it would work with something that has a direct ignition like an Underhammer.

 

[juancho]

Is there a diference between FG and cannon BP.I use FG on my Bess and is quite good.

 

[pargent]

Finaly got to a range to try it out , the cannon powder had a slower ignition and the groups were large.At the end of the session I loaded up with 90 grains of 2f ,it shot to point of aim dead center of the bull every time. That made me one very happy chappy . The first groups were starting to worry me that the prevous owner had been a bender(read my post in the smooth bore section about picking up my new bess). So 2f it is and some lucky cannon guy is going to score some cheap powder.

 

[bob308]

it is the same as 1f just not glazed. i used it before for loading 50-70 and 45-70.

 

[Larry Pletcher]

Granules of Goex cannon grade are larger than fg. When we ran priming test videos with Goex cannon, we sometimes had to arrange the granules in the pan to get the large Siler frizzen to close.

Regards,
Pletch