FOR SALE gooddy51 possible scammer

[Robert an saa fan]

It would be a 17 mile round trip for us to get a today's date newspaper.

Quote: " . . . Alternatively, a picture of the item with the seller's drivers license or photo ID. The actual license number could be blacked out. These in a picture of the item communicate real information. . . . " End quote.

Now the ID picture with the item is a good idea. I would agree to do this in a private message.

Unless a significant amount of money is involved I do not think most scammers will provide ID pictures; real or faked. Some bold scammers would provide real ID knowing scam enforcement is lax.

Many years ago I took a $100 bad check and had recorded the buyers drivers license number. Check was written on a closed Wells Fargo Bank account, address was an empty spot in a mobile home / RV park. Postman delivering there said he kept getting lots of collections type mail for the scammer.

 

[MCFred]

To make pirated pictures useless ask for an additional picture of the item with something like a dime or a quarter, car key fob, etc. A request like this to a seller was never acknowledged, saved me $1200 once. YMMV

Just know, in response to a request just like that they photoshopped in the item. Fortunately it was to a photo that had come up when I reversed image searched so I immediately knew it was fake.

 

[MCFred]

What common item that most people have is going to prove anything at all about the seller?
Most can pick up a single newspaper at the supermarket or drugstore. Alternatively, a picture of the item with the seller's drivers license or photo ID. The actual license number could be blacked out. These in a picture of the item communicate real information.

I am not enthusiastic about making sellers' lives difficult. But we hear too often about on line fraud. I doubt that most people on here came by their money easily. I doubt they want a scammer to have at it easily.

A scammer just last month that had gotten 2 members also sent me a photoshopped ID. Again I had reversed image searched the images Soninkes it was a scam. However be advised that they are trying to change info on the image to foil the image seach.

 

[MCFred]

Unless your able to talk to the individual directly on the phone. So far I haven’t had a single scammer answer the phone. Or conduct FTF transaction it’s very difficult.

 

[Fossilsn]

Well I suppose you could take it a step further with a video call where the seller shows the firearm.

 

[vintovka]

Well I suppose you could take it a step further with a video call where the seller shows the firearm.

I like the idea of time dated VIDEO of the item showing details and such. This may be the way to go in the future.

 

[1950DAVE]

So is the $$$$$ deal worth the $$$$$ gamble? Only the gambler can answer. When you lose don't blame the system just the foolish chance taken. It ain't like you went in blindfolded. We just hat to admit we made a mistake.
Dave

 

[William Lincoln]

We are dealing with many people that are NOT REAL AMERICANS. Many are illegal
types of one kind or another. Some outside of our area and scamming from Russia
or Nigeria. As said by forum posts before, request valid ID. If you sell to an underage
person you are 100% legally liable for multiple kinds of damages or even fake damages
charged by a parent. You cannot trust the voice alone. In prior posts I, and others, have
created lists to go by. Contact a local gunsmith or shop--they usually charge little to
do a "Bore check" . Crooks will not submit to a "bore check" and are quick to weed out.
Also they will not give an ID. Buyers must beware. Also, as said, well known posters here
are safe but an imposter could use their identity.

 

[springfield art]

Can I pay after my check from the Nigerian prince clears the bank?

The Prince designated me as his US rep; so just forward it to me! I'll be sure he gets it!")

 

[vintovka]

We are dealing with many people that are NOT REAL AMERICANS. Many are illegal
types of one kind or another. Some outside of our area and scamming from Russia
or Nigeria. As said by forum posts before, request valid ID. If you sell to an underage
person you are 100% legally liable for multiple kinds of damages or even fake damages
charged by a parent. You cannot trust the voice alone. In prior posts I, and others, have
created lists to go by. Contact a local gunsmith or shop--they usually charge little to
do a "Bore check" . Crooks will not submit to a "bore check" and are quick to weed out.
Also they will not give an ID. Buyers must beware. Also, as said, well known posters here
are safe but an imposter could use their identity.

I would amend "not real American's" to "Anti-Americans" This means our enemies

 

[Cattywompuss]

I would amend "not real American's" to "Anti-Americans" This means our enemies

Possibly a less loaded(haha, guns, get it) phrase would be foreigners. I tend to love my enemy, and his charming attempts to relieve me of my hard won specie. Getting scammed is hard, while not sending money to people you can't see is very easy.

 

[toot]

seams as like they are behind every bush! it spoilers the buying of a gun that you rely want to buy!

 

[FishDFly]

Found this on the sister forum:

"give it to an bonified FFL, holder phone # and they mail it with tracking . I will pay the FFL and he can pay you" ,

Might be the way to buy, have a FFL handle the transaction and sent to your FFL. Would cost more money but would be the safest way to get what you want and pay for.

 

[stikshooter]

Found this on the sister forum:

"give it to an bonified FFL, holder phone # and they mail it with tracking . I will pay the FFL and he can pay you" ,

Might be the way to buy, have a FFL handle the transaction and sent to your FFL. Would cost more money but would be the safest way to get what you want.

That would be me / Ed

 

[COTNTOP]

I traded with a established member on another website long ago. I did not have no background so I sent the item as proof that I was legit, worked out OK. Just wondering why the buyer always pay first. The established person should have his pleasure.

 

[MarkItZero]

Not sure why this site doesn't just use the trusted handwritten note with user name and date in photo with item.

It's pretty much the law in most other web sale forums.

 

[frankie]

To make pirated pictures useless ask for an additional picture of the item with something like a dime or a quarter, car key fob, etc. A request like this to a seller was never acknowledged, saved me $1200 once. YMMV

great ideas

 

[B P Maniac Shooter]

Just ask them to ship the gun to you first......
When it arrives, then you pay.
After all, it IS a 2 way street.
Problem solved.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

suspected scammer has been banned.