Got two old shooters today

[RockingKJ]

Went to a military relic show today. Not into military stuff but this little show other things do show up. Traded some military knives I had bought to sell trade for these two antique muzzleloaders. Top full stock rifle is approximately .32 cal and marked on the barrel “G Biddel”. The second rifle is approximately .40 cal and marked “H PETER” on top of the barrel and has a “G. Goulcher” lock. Bores are dark but no significant pitting. Some added copper shielding to both which does hide some wood loss and a repair on the Biddel. Looking forward to taking em out and making them roar again.

 

[FlaminCrow]

Very nice finds.

 

[RockingKJ]

Very nice finds.

Thanks. I am not finding anything on G Biddel. I do find some info under Biddle. Here is the mark. What you all think?

 

[FlaminCrow]

That’s a tough one. Take a look at this link, similar patchbox.
Would want to see a signature on another rifle just to compare, may be worth contact the author of that article. Could also be one of those instances where a simple spelling of a name transformed.

https://tusccountystories.com/2021/...ans-tuscarawas-county-gunsmith-george-biddle/

 

[RockingKJ]

That’s a tough one. Take a look at this link, similar patchbox.
Would want to see a signature on another rifle just to compare, may be worth contact the author of that article. Could also be one of those instances where a simple spelling of a name transformed.

https://tusccountystories.com/2021/...ans-tuscarawas-county-gunsmith-george-biddle/

Thanks. I did send an email. Appreciate the response.

 

[FlaminCrow]

Keep us posted! Good luck

 

[Gtrubicon]

If you can’t find room to store the half stock, lemme know! Beautiful!

 

[Secesh]

Beautiful full stock as well!

 

[Wncman]

Nice Find. Congratulations

 

[RockingKJ]

Thanks for the storage offers. Muzzle loaders are jello. Always room for more. lol.

 

[RockingKJ]

Keep us posted! Good luck

Found several George Biddle rifles that sold in Kaufman auction in July 2024. One pic from the auction showed the barrel signature, it’s identical to my rifle. The patch box was the same and engraving most of the same features. At this point I will feel confident in identifying it as a rifle made by George Biddle. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

 

[FlaminCrow]

Found several George Biddle rifles that sold in Kaufman auction in July 2024. One pic from the auction showed the barrel signature, it’s identical to my rifle. The patch box was the same and engraving most of the same features. At this point I will feel confident in identifying it as a rifle made by George Biddle. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

Congrats on the find, she’s a beaut.

 

[RockingKJ]

Congrats on the find, she’s a beaut.

Thanks. If I can find a cleaning jag Saturday at the gun show will see how she shoots on Sunday.

 

[FlaminCrow]

Post some pics

 

[FlaminCrow]

Thanks. I did send an email. Appreciate the response.

Ever hear back from this ol boy?

 

[The Crisco Kid]

I posted this photo on another thread a couple of weeks ago. This rifle is one I'm building. It sure does resemble that half stock of yours, especially the fiddleback in the wood.

 

[RockingKJ]

Ever hear back from this ol boy?

No I had not. That article was a year old so hard telling if the author is still around. Good
Info regardless. Thanks

 

[RockingKJ]

I posted this photo on another thread a couple of weeks ago. This rifle is one I'm building. It sure does resemble that half stock of yours, especially the fiddleback in the wood.

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Dandy looking rifle! Appears that it works well unless you leaned it up against some road kill. lol kidding of course.

 

[The Crisco Kid]

Dandy looking rifle! Appears that it works well unless you leaned it up against some road kill. lol kidding of course.

You sound just like a couple of friends of mine!
After I make a great 150 yard off hand shot on a javelina running through the brush I get accused of using road kill for a photo prop! I don't get no respect!

 

[FlaminCrow]

You sound just like a couple of friends of mine!
After I make a great 150 yard off hand shot on a javelina running through the brush I get accused of using road kill for a photo prop! I don't get no respect!

Sounds like you hunt with a couple friends of mine from down there.