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YEP. At least it was "Period Correct" to NA in TX/NM when Europeans came to what was to them "The New World". = Mush, hominy, masa harina, etc. was a commonplace staple of "the common people's" diet for EONS before "the coming of the hairy faces" to the Western Hemishere.

Btw, MOST of that which we "Anglos"/"Texicans" call "Mexican food" and/or "Tex-Mex" in TX/NM/AZ is no more Mexican than it is Chinese. = Instead it's NA food, much of which were originally Comanche/Apache/Dineae/Zuni/Hopi dishes. - For example, "Texas Red" or what is usually called "Chili con Carne" is based on a Comanche "meat/pepper/onion/maize stew", that was modified about 1820-30 in Bexar County, TX by "The Tejana Chili Queens" to feed the hordes of hungry bachelors, who flooded into TX between 1820-45, in cast iron "wash pots" on the Central Plaza. = The "original recipes" for the stew/chili sold by "The Chili Queens" are in the archives of THE TEXAS INSTITUTE OF CULTURES, here in San Antonio.
(My adopted daughter, who came to us as a teenager was born/spent her girlhood/attended parochial girl's schools in Mexico & had never even seen, much less tasted, what we Texicans call "Mexican food", until she came to live in the USA.)
"Noe" is AMUSED when our native-born Tejanos call themselves "Mexicans", as many of their families have been TEJANO for 2-6 CENTURIES.
(Many Tejanos speak little or NO actual Spanish anymore!!!)

What is commonly called "Tex-Mex" or "Spanglish" is a "New Language", which is now recognized as such by linguists & scholars. "Spanglish" or "Tejano" (as many people in the SW prefer to call it) is "a melting together" of English, Spanish, Native, Arabic, French, Sub-Saharan African & even some Hebrew words, "with more or less" Spanish pronunciation & grammar.
(Since 1984, even some Vietnamese, Cambodian & Lao words have been adopted down on the Gulf Coast!)

Note: Should anyone want more information, I'll try to look it up for you, as our tribal archives have thousands of relevant documents that we have held since "The Long Walk" from GA/AL/TN of 1818-19. Furthermore, The Institute Texas Culture, Saint Mary's University, The University of the Incarnate Word, San Antonio College, Alamo Colleges & UTSA have much more "period information" in their files than we Tsalagis hold at our tribal center.

yours, satx
Enrolled member, Tsalagi Nvdagi Nation of TX & Coahuila
 
And I thought Tagalog was a mixed up language. (Japanese, Spanish and Polynesian)

Of course older folks here still speak PA Dutch, a bizarre mix of Holland Dutch, Southern peasant German, Swiss low German and English. Although it is largely lost now, the accent and German word order were still used when folks spoke English. Resulting in such things as "Outen the lights" "Throw Pop down the steps his shoes"

Any peasant food from Southern Germany would have been brought over here by the German Quakers and Swiss Mennonites in the late 1600's and early 1700's.
 
Rev Williams, that's odd. Here we would never add smoked or cured meats to scrapple. Scrapple is usually used up before the bacon and hams are ready.
 
Here is a family recipe for corn meal mush

3 cups yellow corn meal
2 quarts boiling water
1 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon pepper
1/2 cup wheat flour

Bring water to a boil and while constantly stirring, add the other ingredients slowly.

When well blended and without lumps, continue stirring and simmer for two hours, (A crock pot comes in handy for this)

pour into shallow loaf pans and allow to cool and set.

Slice in 1/4 inch slices and fry until golden brown on both side.
 
Amen tex...though I usually tell folks that ask that chili was developed so folks could gag down the padre's goat! Yeah, I know!!

As for the language, my Aunt Mary came to visit the folks from Illinois back in the mid-60s. Being a Spanish teacher back home, she just knew she'd have no trouble...you know where this is going! Ten minutes in she was asking, "What are they speaking, it's not Spanish"...to which I said, "Not Castillian, no!" Tex/Mex is a good term for it...food & lingo! :haha:
 
"Tex-Deutch" is about as "confused" as "Tejano" language is, as it too is a "stew" of Low German, Swiss German, Czech, Yiddish, English, Wendish, Russian, Ladino, Comanche and Spanish, as the RoT "in its great wisdom" saw "immigrants from Europe" as "European people" & sometimes settled them together regardless of national origin.
(Incidently, TX has ALL of the "Wendish people" on Earth and ALL of the "Black Chinese", too. - Both groups came to TX to be free to be: Wendish & Black Chinese & both groups, to some degree, have succeeded in that goal.)

In "food styles", this makes for some fairly ODD dishes. = Like KOLACHES stuffed with TACO MEAT or BORSCHT served with CHICKEN-FRIED STEAK, with a side of CARNE GUISADA.
(We also have a German-Vietnamese Café in Corpus Christi, where you can have a bowl of Pho, Spatzle and Kaiserbraten at lunch. Also, the town of West has a Czech/Tex-Mex café.)

yours, satx
 
crockett said:
Well I've never done it but you guys have motivated me to try. So fried corn meal mush. Question- is it pc?
as stated above yes its pc to anywher corn was eaten....Just as important it is really good.As is the other corn and homminy dishs here,and grits that started all this
 
Well did the corn meal mush and yeah- big surprise. Very good and I did it plain, just water, salt and pepper.
Texas chili- cubed up beef and ground up chili peppers, salt, pepper, and nothing else. That's how I do it.
Chicken fried steak- some guy told me it started with the Germans immigrants in the hill country and was sort of a beef version of wiener schnitzel.
 
Black Hand said:
Grits and cornmeal mush (also known as Polenta) are essentially the same thing.
grits are made with hommoney...lyed dried corn, mush is made with ground whole yellow corn. close but like whole wheate and white flour
 
In other words, with grits the hull of the corn kernel is taken off and then the remainder is rough ground into grit sized particles whereas corn meal is the entire kernel (hull included) and normally ground to a finer degree?
 
On this forum, discussion of grits should be treated just like discussion of child pornography and modern guns. :cursing: Prohibited.
The south will never rise again as long as the keep eating that horrible stuff. :barf:
I have lived in the south since 1970 and just cannot handle that devils glop. :barf: :barf:
 
Let me think...raw fish wraped in rice,sheep guts boiled in a sheeps stomach with oatmeal,snails,waterbugs(crawfish)rocky mountian oysters,dried cod fish soaked in lye till it turns to mush,anchovies on pizza,et al dosn't make corn meal or hommony meal sound to bad :rotf:
 
by the by, I eat haggis, crawfish, and anchovies.Cant do the bait wraped in rice and the smell of minnisotas state dish has kept me from getting a mouthful
 
Well, I like them. Sort of the ultimate comfort food, but I agree, opinions vary, alot of my kin never ate them. I add lots of butter, broken up sausage, etc.
 
tenngun said:
and the smell of minnisotas state dish has kept me from getting a mouthful
Hey, don't be calling that crap Minnesota food, there are plenty of us decent educated Minnesotans who reject the stuff outright. :haha:
 
Rifleman1776 said:
I have lived in the south since 1970 and just cannot handle that devils glop. :barf: :barf:

Try Cream-of-Wheat...same texture, different taste!! :wink:
 
I have the same reaction when somebody serves me Cincinatti style chili. Having family members from Ft. Worth who won blue ribbons for their chili..., some Yankee adding pasta to the bottom of the chili bowl borders on fraud!

Wait..., what was the original topic... :redface:

LD
 
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