Harpers Ferry 1803 info help

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I just acquired a Navy Arms / Zoli 1803 Harpers Ferry. Nice gun, seems accurate the few shots so far.
Can anyone tell me when it was made, and rifling twist rate? Seems to have a serial number 8858
It's .58, although I can't get it to take a .575 ball, just .562 so far.
Also, although seems accurate, shoots very low at 50 yd. If I want to sight on it, I pretty much have to have the POI resting on the top of the barrel at the bottom of the front blade. So I can't really lower the foresight, need to have higher rear sight somehow.
 

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The 1803 by Zoli was made in Italy. It should have an Italian proof stamp on the barrel. These are the codes from 1945.


Italian Date Codes​
1945 = 1​
1967 = XXIII​
1989 = AU​
1946 = 2​
1968 = XXIV​
1990 = AZ​
1947 = 3​
1969 = XXV​
1991 = BA​
1948 = 4​
1970 = XXVI​
1992 = BB​
1949 = 5​
1971 = XX7​
1993 = BC​
1950 = 6​
1972 = XX8​
1994 = BD​
1951 = 7​
1973 = XX9​
1995 = BF​
1952 = 8​
1974= XXX​
1996 = BH​
1953 = 9​
1975 = AA​
1997 = BI​
1954 = X​
1976 = AB​
1998 = BL​
1955 = XI​
1977 = AC​
1999 = BM​
1956 = XII​
1978 = AD​
2000 = BN​
1957 = XIII​
1979 = AE​
2001 = BP​
1958 = XIV​
1980 = AF​
2002 = BS​
1959 = XV​
1981 = AH​
2003 = BT​
1960 = XVI​
1982 = AI​
2004 = BU​
1961 – XVII​
1983 = AL​
2005 = BZ​
1962 = XVIII​
1984 = AM​
2006 = CA​
1963 = XIX​
1985 = AN​
2007 = CB​
1964 = XX​
1986 = AP​
2008 = CC​
1965 = XXI​
1987 = AS​
2009 = CD​
1966 = XXII​
1988 = AT​
2010 = CF​
Prior to 1945 date codes were in Roman numerals and included the month and the last two numbers of the year, so January 1922 would be rendered IXXII.​

Now as to loading a round ball. Zoli would have used a barrel from their 58 caliber musket line and the land to land diameter is probably close to 0.575". A 0.575 ball with any size patch is not likely to fit. How many lands does it have? Do you have a digital caliper to measure the inside diameter of the bore? More than likely, your 0.562" ball will be the best size for that barrel. My 1803 has a 54 caliber Colerain Barrel, so my experience won't be of much help.
 
I have an. 1803 with a 7 groove Getz barrel at .54. I use a .535 ball in a paper cartridge with the ball end greased. Like a Baker Rifle Cartridge.

I owned a Zoli .58 1803 years back. Stock had some nice drop in it, the barrel was a match grade at .58 with 3 lands and grooves, military style that you’d see in most Civil War Muskets. Can take both a round ball and a conical round. Has some incredible range on it but on the down side, the zoli 1803 isn’t very historically accurate.
 
Once you find an accurate load combo start filing down your front sight to raise the point of impact. File just a little at a time, shoot a few rounds to see where it hits. If it’s still shooting low file a bit more. Continue until you get it where it needs to be. Be sure to file just a little at a time then check where it hits. Use a small hand file not a dremel tool. The dremel takes off too much too fast.
 
Thanks for the help guys. It has AA in a square on L side barrel near breech so I guess that's 1975 by Grenadier's chart. Do you know the rifling twist rate?
I need to get a new rear site. If I file down the foresight, I'll be down on the barrel before I get aimed high enough - the rear sight is just 5/32" above barrel. I made a temp sight out of a slip of copper that I glued on to the real sight, doubled its height to 20/64" and that got me up on to paper.
Thanks, John
 
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