I wonder why? Seems excessive but I'll do anything to get my BP fix!
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Hazmat fees are CRAZY!
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Other online vendors like Midway, Dixie, Brownells, ect., are multimillion dollar companies that ship in large enough quantities, hundreds to thousands of packages per day, and they receive a discount from the shipping companies on their rates. For example, right now, Midway has their free shipping option on any order as long as it is $49 or more, including lead bullets and balls. The free shipping deal kind of works like a loss leader due to the fact they sell more than enough merchandise to where it offsets the free shipping that they do offer several times per month. The smaller companies can't compete with the big guys, especially when it comes to shipping. For a fact, FEDEX does charge the smaller companies $44 on each hazmat package they ship, last year it was $39. I know this because I have a small company that ships and receives both FEDEX as well as UPS hazmat packages, and we don't receive favorable treatment regarding shipping charges because we don't ship enough packages and have to pay the standard fee. Sometimes its hard to believe that some feel the smaller companies, some of who have been in business for 20 to 30 years are screwing their customers on shipping. Then again, I feel the same way at times when I pull up to the pump and the same station I was paying $2.89 gal for diesel 8 months ago is now charging $6.19.
If you click on the link below, it will take you to the 2022 FEDEX Rate Chart. If you scroll down to the middle of page 5, you will see the FEDEX Hazardous Materials fee, which again is $44.
FEDEX Rate Chart 2022
Gas in California is running just at $6.00 a gallon and a bit more at some stations. (forget the diesel) 
Saw $6.19 for unleaded this morning.
15 miles from town. Our local small market sells gas for $6.00+. I'll gas up on the way home from our rural Post office.
So, if I drive into town, that's at least 15 miles to the closest gas station, it'll cost me $6.00+ so gassing up close to home really isn't that bad.
Same as running out of milk. Cost more to drive to town + gas and milk is about .50 cents more here close to home. Shop local.
Saw $6.19 for unleaded this morning.15 miles from town. Our local small market sells gas for $6.00+. I'll gas up on the way home from our rural Post office.
So, if I drive into town, that's at least 15 miles to the closest gas station, it'll cost me $6.00+ so gassing up close to home really isn't that bad.
Same as running out of milk. Cost more to drive to town + gas and milk is about .50 cents more here close to home. Shop local.
Thank you for the FEDEX chart, @Gunny5821 . That is illuminating. As far as I know, UPS is no longer carrying black powder, and our local UPS service won't handle firearms or ammunition of any kind. They will deliver gun-related items I have ordered, but the local UPS depots won't accept guns or ammunition for shipping out. They told me it is a local management policy. In any event, FedEx is the only outfit I know of that still delivers powder, and it appears they have raised their HazMat fee this year. I think the last time I ordered powder was September before last, and I went in with some other fellows. We split the shipping and HazMat, and one of the other guys signed for the delivery. This was a couple of months before the Goex plant closed, whenever that was.
On a more positive note, I got my newest issue of Muzzle Blasts today, and GOEX/Estes Energetics had a full page ad, with images of Goex and Olde Eynsford powder containers, indicating they were moving forward toward getting back into production.
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On a more positive note, I got my newest issue of Muzzle Blasts today, and GOEX/Estes Energetics had a full page ad, with images of Goex and Olde Eynsford powder containers, indicating they were moving forward toward getting back into production.
Notchy Bob
I spoke with a parts guy at Taylors Firearms today about a parts order I placed months ago. They have most of my order and are shipping. I asked about the product flow from Italy and they are as in the dark as we are. Some stuff shows up, then other stuff may not ever get here. They cannot guarantee anything to be in stock at any time.
Crazy days.
Crazy days.
They don’t sounds so reputable. They crossed the Rubicon.
Thank's for the heads up on this vendor!!
Yes purchased an old ironside a few days ago. The price to ship the fuse was just that $23.50.
Lol I had some bp on back order with Buffalo Arms their hasmat is very expensive but then I guess FedEx because they are the shpper fo there BP. They charge FedEx that is for thier incompetence
. I got the tracking info earlier last week. Delivery scheduled for the 13th . Friday I get a change in delivery notification from FedEx. It is now arriving next week on the 18th. So I was curious i did one of those expanded tracks. I live on the east side of the country. Guess where my package is! Oregon! Lol this is not the first time FedEx has shipped stuff from the east coast and first stop was west coast LOL. Nothing I can do about it but pray it gets here and laugh.
What are caps? Nobody charges like that for shipping flints.
Nobody charges like that for shipping flints.MAKE YOUR OWN CAPS AND BP
I have brought this up several times on this forum. If you feel your packages will be seized/destroyed, or you dont like the HAZMAT fees, or you dont have confidence in your shipper, MAKE THEM. It is very easy, very cheap. I tried to bring up how a few months back, and was sent an admin note it isnt allowed on this forum: Look in the net, You Tube is a good source, and start making your own.
It doesnt take a chemist, and the intial layout for a cap maker tool will cost you as much as what you are paying for a one time HAZMAT fee, The BP and cap components are so cheap and plentiful, and are not considered HAZMAT.
I have brought this up several times on this forum. If you feel your packages will be seized/destroyed, or you dont like the HAZMAT fees, or you dont have confidence in your shipper, MAKE THEM. It is very easy, very cheap. I tried to bring up how a few months back, and was sent an admin note it isnt allowed on this forum: Look in the net, You Tube is a good source, and start making your own.
It doesnt take a chemist, and the intial layout for a cap maker tool will cost you as much as what you are paying for a one time HAZMAT fee, The BP and cap components are so cheap and plentiful, and are not considered HAZMAT.
In 2008 crude oil was near $150 a barrel and home fuel oil was 3.85 so why in March when just over $100 a barrel why was home heating oil $6.11 a gallon LoL so of all things Joe Biden has finally been right on something! My friends brother works for one of the oil companies and said his company is making a 25 % profit on every gallon today. Listen to these bone heads on the radio who like everyone else don’t have there facts straight and say these protroleum suppliers only make Pennies on the gallon. Nothing like greed being part of problem
Don’t give them any ideas!What are caps?
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I'm just glad I have never had to get shipments such as that. I just go get it. I've lived in 4 different states and though it isn't a grocery store run, with planning is an easy trip to incorporate with other activities each year or so.
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Fyi, I am the shipper, and the Hazmat Fee is set by FEDEX, not me. I have fought for a better rate for 3 years. I was being charged 39 hazmat last year then both fedexcand ups raised the rate to 44 on jan 1 this year. Im just a small shop trying to keep everyone supplied, i lose money on shipping on nearly every hazmat package.
The fees charged by ups and fedex are posted on there websites. Check it out before bashing me accusing me of trying to screw you over with hazmat charges. You were fully aware of the charge before you even placed the order. I told you like i do every customer up front, please place a large enough order to offset the hazmat and shipping costs.
The fees charged by ups and fedex are posted on there websites. Check it out before bashing me accusing me of trying to screw you over with hazmat charges. You were fully aware of the charge before you even placed the order. I told you like i do every customer up front, please place a large enough order to offset the hazmat and shipping costs.
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Fyi, I am the shipper, and the Hazmat Fee is set by FEDEX, not me. I have fought for a better rate for 3 years. I was being charged 39 hazmat last year then both fedexcand ups raised the rate to 44 on jan 1 this year. Im just a small shop trying to keep everyone supplied, i lose money on shipping on nearly every hazmat package.
The fees charged by ups and fedex are posted on there websites. Check it out before bashing me accusing me of trying to screw you over with hazmat charges. You were fully aware of the charge before you even placed the order. I told you like i do every customer up front, please place a large enough order to offset the hazmat and shipping costs.
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You are right to be upset. We should not bash anyone here (except Biden and co. ). The facts should have been checked. Personally, I did not know who set the fees until this post. It sounded illogical, to me, that the shipper would set them. You deserve apologies.
You are right to be upset. We should not bash anyone here (except Biden and co.
). The facts should have been checked. Personally, I did not know who set the fees until this post. It sounded illogical, to me, that the shipper would set them. You deserve apologies.user 53891
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Some years ago I order some boxers(underwear) online. They started out back east, went along the south past Colorado up to Commiefornia, along up to Washington state, started heading along the north to Utah, North Dakota, went to Minnesota, down to Illinois, finally hit Denver, and a weeklater I got them!! That damned underwear traveled more states in this Country than I did at the time!! The only thing they didn't hit is Southeast Asia!!Yes purchased an old ironside a few days ago. The price to ship the fuse was just that $23.50.
Lol I had some bp on back order with Buffalo Arms their hasmat is very expensive but then I guess FedEx because they are the shpper fo there BP. They charge FedEx that is for thier incompetence
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A cpl wks ago I placed a powder order with Bruno's.........right up to when I saw what the SOB's were charging for shipping & Hazmat fees. I canceled my order & unsubscribed to their website. Theres " inflation " and theres " bendin ppl over the moss covered log ". The first one is hard enough to deal with, the second - is completely unacceptable & I won't play along.
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I hear you. However, the smaller businesses don't get the breaks that the big box stores do. Fedex and UPS, set the hazmat fees. That being said, if the small business store does it's own shipping, they have to account for tape, boxes, and the shipping fee itself. Now some do set an awful high price for shipping, way beyond what actual shipping charges are. Like you, I avoid them also.
I paid the same fees when I purchased some black powder awhile ago from Travelers in Texas. It was the ONLY place I could find FFFG online at the time and I was darn happy to get it. It isn't their fault and they have to pay what the shippers charge.
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