Help ID this rifle

[pajeepman]

Was gifted to me.
.40 cal black powdermusket replica is what the tag says on the stock. Only marking on it are numbers on the barrel 029370. It is 50" long.
I haven't loaded a percussion before, only flintlock rifles. What cap should I use(came with 11's). Sorry pictures aren't great.

 

[64Springer]

It screams Miroku. Japanese.

.40 caliber is a bonus.

#11 primers.

Make sure she ain't loaded.

 

[Hermit Tim]

It screams Miroku. Japanese.

.40 caliber is a bonus.

#11 primers.

Make sure she ain't loaded.

Yep, I am thinking the same brand. Never knew they made it in 40 though. If the bore is good it should be a fun little rifle.

 

[64Springer]

Yep, I am thinking the same brand. Never knew they made it in 40 though. If the bore is good it should be a fun little rifle.

Same here.

Thought they were .45s like my Jukars.

Be neat if .40 is stamped on it somewhere.

 

[pajeepman]

It screams Miroku. Japanese.

.40 caliber is a bonus.

#11 primers.

Make sure she ain't loaded.

Not loaded. Came from a family friend who switched his collection to WWI AND WWII arms. Also got a zulu shotgun, pietta 1851 Navy, and a jukar percussion pistol. Bought from family friend by my wife for a Christmas present 2 years ago.
Taking stock of what I need before the Kempton gunmakers fair next month.

If a Miroku is that a good thing. I have heard of them but no idea if good. What time frame where they made. Value, (it is in very good shape) Thanks

 

[Hermit Tim]

Same here.

Thought they were .45s like my Jukars.

Be neat if .40 is stamped on it somewhere.

Not too long ago I saw one in 62 smoothbore. And it was a flintlock. Didn't know they made that either so he may have a rare gun here.

 

[pajeepman]

I think it may be a .45 after all. A .395 ball rolls down easily. A .451 ball is tight.

 

[Hermit Tim]

Not loaded. Came from a family friend who switched his collection to WWI AND WWII arms. Also got a zulu shotgun, pietta 1851 Navy, and a jukar percussion pistol. Bought from family friend by my wife for a Christmas present 2 years ago.
Taking stock of what I need before the Kempton gunmakers fair next month.

If a Miroku is that a good thing. I have heard of them but no idea if good. What time frame where they made. Value, (it is in very good shape) Thanks

In the usual .45 they aren't usually more than a couple hundred bucks. But if it is a .40 that makes it hard to come by and, if in great shape, should at least double the value. They were a low-end rifle, I think, from the late sixties/early seventies. I could be wrong about all of this but that is my understanding. Not high quality but they were a decent starter rifle.

 

[64Springer]

Value: 200 to 250.

 

[Rawhide67]

Maybe Miroku, likely Ultra High. Check the bore diameter with a drill bit. Not the cutting end. 40 is an odd caliber for that gun.

 

[64Springer]

Miroku was the Manufacturer.

Ultra-Hi was the Importer.

 

[Relic shooter]

Your rifle was marketed by CVA, Connecticut Valley Arms through the 70s & 80s.
CVA produced low cost rifles & pistols in pre-inletted kit form or in finished form & in later years they marketed half stock rifles as well.
Their full-stock rifles had two piece stocks, the splice in the forearms are concealed by a piece of wraparound brass.
Relic shooter

 

[smokepolehall]

It also could be a FIE, i had one in a .45 back in late 70's. It was accurate

 

[SmokepoleSam]

CVA never used the sheet brass as in the picture they used a brass spacer between the two pieces of wood.

 

[Rawhide67]

Also, the lock plate and drum/snail don't look CVA. Not that iver seen every muzzleloader to come out of Spain.

 

[smokepolehall]

I got out my FIE .45, mine has PR stamped also Italy. The brass forestock hardware is where the last thimble for ramrod to enter.

 

[ronaldrothb49]

CVA never used the sheet brass as in the picture they used a brass spacer between the two pieces of wood.

Actually the first model CVA sold did have the brass sheet.

 

[Steve Wagner]

It's a dangerous recall. Send it to me and I will make sure it is properly disposed of. Send the #11's too. They are on the recall list as well. SW