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[zimmerstutzen]

There were two different makes of rifles with the wide brass forearm band. One sold by FIE and replica arms had a wide cast brass piece that could double as a nosecap for a half stock rifle. The other was a wide sheet brass cover that hid the fact that the stock was in two pieces.

I know what Dixie showed in it's catalog, but I can find no such wide brass joiner in any CVA catalog. I have 1971, 1974, 1979, 1981, 1984, etc.

 

[Zonie]

I just went and dug out my 1978 Dixie Gun Works catalog and found the rifle. It is definitely a CVA.

Going to my 1980 Dixie Gunworks catalog, on page 30 it shows exactly the same picture and text as your 1978 catalog shows.

As can be seen, it has the wide brass section between the main stock and the forend.

From the picture, I can't tell if that wide brass area is made out of brass sheet metal or if it is a more substantial brass casting.

It is a .45 and I must admit I've never seen one of these in a .36 caliber.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

Correction, I found the wide sheet brass joined model in the 1971 CVA catolag, but it is described as a 44 cal.

 

[bpd303]

I would say then that CVA went to the narrow brass spacer between 80-81. The reason I remembered mine that was stolen, is I engraved my initials (RFH) in an oval into the sheet brass band because of the lack of a serial number. If anyone runs across it I would appreciate knowing about it. As far as I know the police have never recovered any of my guns even though I left my new address when I moved from South Florida to Arkansas in 1982.

 

[swathdiver]

I would say then that CVA went to the narrow brass spacer between 80-81.

The CVA catalogs from 1975 onwards (earliest I have) show only the style with the stock joining plate.

I come across these things locally from time to time, if you'd like to give me your information on them I'll keep an eye out for them.

 

[nit wit]

"All it says on it is made in Spain". How do you know it's a .36 cal?
Nit Wit

 

[Tinker2]

Do a Google for “Norica PIC KENTUCKY RIFLE made in Spain” and you will find images of a non CVA in .36 cal. I have seen brass or steel for spacers

Link


William Alexander

 

[Philip63]

Well, I sure stirred up the pot on this one but I still don't know what it's worth. Is $200. to much recon?

 

[Tinker2]

Well, I don’t what it is for sure.
Have not seen it and your description of it in the dark didn’t help.

Then $200. Doesn’t buy much now days
How much is $200 worth to you?
Not much help to you I guess
Let us know if you get it



William Alexander

 

[Philip63]

Well I have tried to download pictures. I put them on photobucket but I'm having trouble loading them from there. Anyway I got the rifle in question for $100. But got home with it and discovered as I suspected it is not a .36 cal but a .45.

 

[bpd303]

I'd say if the bore & lock are good $100 is a good price.
If the photos are uploaded to Photobucket, and you are on a computer, click on the photo and look to the right for a box. Click on the line that says IMG code which will copy the photo. Then go back to your post and right click in an open area and select paste. http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/287747/

 

[Philip63]

I don't have a computer I have a iPad and it must work differently.

 

[bpd303]

This should get you there with an ipad, just scroll down (skip the sign up stuff if you have an account). https://forums.happylatte.com/thre...h-photobucket-from-your-ipad-iphone-ipod.3616/

 

[Philip63]

Okay let's see what happens
IMG

 

[Philip63]

Did it again.

Finally

 

[Philip63]

I don't know if there is something wrong with my iPad or if it's just operator ignorance but the tabs that say select and the one that says copy or paste don't stay on long enough to touch them and I'm about this > | | < far from just throwing this dang thing against a wall and the attacking it with a bat or something.

 

[azmntman]

That'd be DUMB! You got a new rifle, simply drive out to the pits and SHOOT IT! :blah:

 

[Philip63]

That would take to long, I like that instant gratification. Anyway I'm just not going to keep the rifle. It not what I want, which is a .32 cal to squirrel hunt with. However, they seem to be as rare as hens teeth and if you do find one it brings three time what a .50 cal just like it would bring. If I haven't gotten my hands on one by the time the spring squirrel season get here I may just comitt the terrible sin of going back to a .22 rimfire.

 

[Zonie]

To each their own but I know people who hunt those little critters with some pretty big caliber muzzleloaders.

They use very light powder loads and go for "head shots" only.

 

[Philip63]

Well all is not lost. I got my hands on a .32 barrel and with a little work I can make it fit into the stock on the Spanish gun so I now have something to keep me busy for a few days.