Help ID'g a musket??

[Brad Foust]

I have a CW era gun that I think is just a modified 1863 model Springfield, but maybe not? Perhaps someone knows more?
I would post pics, but alas, I never can on this site.

 

I would post pics, but alas, I never can on this site. If you are interested enough I can send to your e-mail.

If you are interested enough you can learn :wink:
http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/287747/

 

[coloradoclyde]

If you are interested enough I can send to your e-mail.

It sounds like you are posting an ad, or trying to generate an interested buyer. A month ago you were trying to figure out how to place an ad in the classifieds.
If I knew for certain that you weren't trying to sell the gun surreptitiously on here I would happily post the picture for you.
But then if you have the ability and knowledge to email a photo you are certainly capable of posting one on this site.....Such a conundrum!

 

[hawkeye2]

From your description it sounds exactly like a "Bannerman" modified '63 or possibly a '61 Springfield. The difference is in the bolster since you don't have a lock. BTW, it isn't economically worthwhile to replace the lock. See this thread for more information:
http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/...291857/post/1443509/hl//fromsearch/1/#1443509

I'm basing what I say on what you had posted and has since been edited out by Claude. From your description it sounds like you know exactly what you have and I would have to ask you for an honest answer to Colorado Clyde's post. If you are sincerely seeking more information I can probably help. Again: hotoSmile:

 

[Brad Foust]

There have been a few times that I was trying to sell an item or so.
But actually, not this time. I try and accumulate (cant afford to collect) Springfields of all vintages.
I have specimans from a flint model 1816 thru a Springfield Arms (not really from the arsenal) M1A civilian M14 tyoe, and allot of in between.
This would be an intersting addotion. But I would like to knpow just what it actually is. A modified battle musket, or an actual prodiced faraging shotgun?
I can appreciate everyones concern about keeping this site "holly". It is a good web site and very helpful.
But I just find it hard to post sometimes. I am not very good at using a computer and that combined with the fact that I can only get very slow dialup service where I live, makes it very tedious and slow to try and use.
Thanks

 

[coloradoclyde]

Dialup? :shocked2: didn't know that still existed!
I guess if it were me I would tackle the larger problems first and find a source for better internet. A public library, school, or university perhaps? so you can upload some photos.

I'm amazed when I hear stories of people with little or no internet access when there are 3rd world countries that have better access than we do. :idunno:

 

[hawkeye2]

Follow the link I posted, it will tell you a lot and NO, there is no such thing as a Civil War forager's shotgun. That's all :bull: :v

 

[Brad Foust]

owed thw link, and THANKS SO MUCH.
That looks exactley what I have, cept' I am missing the lock, Ramrod and RR pipe is missing.
But otherwise all is the same.
Mine is not near as nice condition. Has a complete covering of fine black pitting / rust.
Not what I'd call patina.
I dont think it would be worth investing in a lock, unless I can locate one in a junk box, or similiar.
Thanks to all. I'll just keep as is.Or, I have a friend with a model 63 that someone took abunch of wood off of all over, but his barrel is still good.
I might splice a foreend on mine and use his barrel and lock and make him a musket.
At least one of us would have a decent musket.
Thanks again
Merry Christmas

 

[Wes/Tex]

AS noted above, there really was no such thing as an issued "foraging" gun during the unpleasantness of 1861-1865. All these were done post-war by outfits like Bannerman's to provide low cost hunting fowlers for the general public. Lot of '61 and '63 rifled muskets in storage and their shallow rifled bores polished out with minimum work...then you have a 28 gauge! :wink: :haha:

 

[Tumblernotch]

I can tell you for certain that there were no forager's shotguns ever made by any US armory, either government or private. Any alterations were done post War by private contractors and gunsmiths and whoever thought they could do it. There was no "Foraging Model", ever.