Help ID'n this one

[dwarvenchef]

I got this in a trade long ago, if any one knows where it came from I'd like to know. It is a .36 and a bit sluggish in the lock, going to take it apart and polish up anything that looks funny.

I know it's not a Hawken and may get traded again if I can find a "Mini" hawken to take it's place. Been kicking myself passing up a Seneca years ago...

 

[musketman]

I enlarged the name on the barrel to help others ID the rifle for you...

I believe it's an Itilian made Kentuckian...

Here is a close up of the proof marks...

 

[dwarvenchef]

I found name on the Bbl "Intercontinental Arms Co." Who the heck was that? The guy I got it off said he picked it up in the 70's if that helps. On close examination I noticed the Bore is not centered in the Bbl, wish I would have noticed that before.

 

[musketman]

I found name on the Bbl "Intercontinental Arms Co." Who the heck was that?

That helps out a bunch...

I found this:

# 10791 - Intercontinental Arms Repro.
6/18/2005
Nick, Jamestown RI


Intercontinental Arms Inc. - Kentuckian - .44 - 36'' - Don't Know -
Made In Italy, PN XXII 133 I would like to know about how old the gun is, What it might be worth and if it is worth it for me to have it fixed. It seems to be in good shape, the flint-lock seems to work fine and the barrel seems clean inside, although it has some slight surface rust on the outside. Thank You.

Answer:
Nick, I was not able to find out much about Intercontinental Arms, my guess is that they were an importer of black powder replicas probably in the 1970s or 1980s. If my suspicions are correct, value will be in the $200 or less range. Marc

 

[Mulebrain]

I have the same gun in .44

 

[Tony Cable]

I am new to posting, but have been lurking here for several months. I believe that may have been sold by Dixie Gunworks as a Cub rifle. I have it in 45 flint.

 

[dwarvenchef]

Found a chart that ID's Italian proof marks, this Bbl was made in 1966. Almost as old as I am. going to have to clean her up a bit and smooth up that lock, it's very sluggish.

 

[Zonie]

The Flintlock version of that Kentuckian in .44 caliber is the very first Black Powder rifle I ever owned.
Bought it new in 1970 from Intercontintal Arms (who imported several Italian BP guns).

Like I said, it was a .44 and it shot .430 diameter balls, very well, I might add.

Never had a problem with the flintlock. It was a good sparker.

Because I didn't know what PC was, and wouldn't have cared if I did know, I was very happy with that rifle except for the very curved buttplate.
My trusty file fixed the buttplate so it didn't attack me when fired off of my shoulder.
(I didn't know the butt was designed to be shot off of the upper arm.)
I didn't have the luxuary of a computer and the only web I had was made by spiders so I couldn't find out all of these good things about shooting black powder.

I took my Kentuckian Javalina hunting and all of the other (high power rifle) shooters thought it was downright primitive until it blew a hole in a pig and knocked him ass over teakettle.

I sold my Kentuckian rifle about 2 years ago for about $200.
Every once and a while at a gun show, I run into the guy who bought it. He said he hasn't fired it yet but someday he intends to. In the meantime it's hanging on his wall as a decoration. Even his wife likes it.

 

[TAC2]

Hello DwarvenChef.
I think it a Kentucky hunter, it was
Made in Spane in the early 60s.
The company was later bought by CVA.
TAC2.
(Tim )