Help needed: Flintlock English sporting rifle

[todg]

Hey all. I am looking for a simple rifle in the English Sporting Rifle style. Aside from the Jim Chambers "English Gentleman's Sporting Rifle, Model RK-12" does anyone have a suggestion.? I am looking for a working rifle, so probably without all the embellishment. Just a single trigger, shotgun style butt - like the old T/C Pennsylvania hunter.
I am considering the Pedersoli Mortimer, but I want something shorter and lighter.

Any suggestions?

 

[denster]

In what price range are you looking to be in?

 

[billraby]

Build one and you can get exactly what you want.

 

[todg]

In what price range are you looking to be in?

I’d like to stay under 2k if that’s even possible.

 

[todg]

Build one and you can get exactly what you want.

I’m considering the possibility but have never done anything like that.? I’ve seen the guns people have built here but I’m not that skilled, particularly when it comes to wood work.

Maybe from a kit, but I’d have to find something close to what I want, hence the question.

 

[Rudyard]

Ide say the Jim Chambers kit would be much as you might want . On the ' Horns' posts ,Theirs a pic of me holding a short 50 cal 26" swamped round barrel brass mounted & weight of five pounds. Ime sat on a Hinde I bowled on the run. It was a Pecatonica second stock & a L&R 'Queen Anne' & I added a wooden tool box . Once Ide take your order but getting gun parts into & out of NZ currently is to much trouble . Regards Rudyard

 

[smoothshooter]

Ide say the Jim Chambers kit would be much as you might want . On the ' Horns' posts ,Theirs a pic of me holding a short 50 cal 26" swamped round barrel brass mounted & weight of five pounds. Ime sat on a Hinde I bowled on the run. It was a Pecatonica second stock & a L&R 'Queen Anne' & I added a wooden tool box . Once Ide take your order but getting gun parts into & out of NZ currently is to much trouble . Regards Rudyard

What does “bowled on the run” mean?

 

[Malamute]

Hey all. I am looking for a simple rifle in the English Sporting Rifle style. Aside from the Jim Chambers "English Gentleman's Sporting Rifle, Model RK-12" does anyone have a suggestion.? I am looking for a working rifle, so probably without all the embellishment. Just a single trigger, shotgun style butt - like the old T/C Pennsylvania hunter.
I am considering the Pedersoli Mortimer, but I want something shorter and lighter.

Any suggestions?

If you otherwise like the Mortimer, then my suggestion is to get one and cut it down. The very same thing occurred to me. I like English style sporters and shorter guns. Too long? Not that difficult to correct.

 

[Rudyard]

What does “bowled on the run” mean?

It means shot it running on the saddle of Wards pass in the Richmond ranges of Nelson NZ

 

[smoothshooter]

It means shot it running on the saddle of Wards pass in the Richmond ranges of Nelson NZ

I have to ask, how would anybody not from NZ have known what that meant?

 

[Rudyard]

Well a' saddle '(lowest area between two higher sides of a ridge is universal )&' bowled 'is just poetic for shot .I added the Richmond ranges since we do have hunters in the region . DunkNZ would understand. Hope that clariefies that for you' .
Rudyard

 

[Grenadier1758]

I was thinking of bowled as a shortened form of bowled over when shot.

I like the Chamber's English rifle kit.

 

[Capt. Jas.]

I have to ask, how would anybody not from NZ have known what that meant?

I know and I'm a southron boy ; )

 

[Rudyard]

Bowled',' Scittled' 'Knocked off ','Barrelled',' Smoked' just means shot. That Hind just spooked bolted off & I upped & shot like a shotgun no chance to aim , or think about it . Never know what a hunt brings, Iv'e shot them from the hip too close to mount the rifle . I once in Sussex was getting under a fence & spooking a Wood pigeon shot off my single percussion one handed & down it went we where both supprized . Rudyard

 

[BruceHH]

What caliber(s) are you looking for? I have two half stock Gibbs/Rigby styled .40 caliber flintlocks that I will be advertising in a few days. They are built with shotgun style butt plates, a very nice single trigger and are not heavy. Both are recent builds of mine.

 

[Ed Pilkington]

Let me know BRUCEHH! Ed

 

[Bad Karma]

I have to ask, how would anybody not from NZ have known what that meant?

i suppose it depends on how much traveling (or reading) you’ve done. It’s more like a UK sort of phrase. You might hear it in Africa, India, anywhere in the former British Empire.

 

[DuncNZ]

This is .54 my English style rifle , it is a actually based on a J Henry English type trade rifle with the barrel cut down to about 36" . I have fitted an aperture sight for hunting . I have shown this here before .

 

[smoothshooter]

Hey all. I am looking for a simple rifle in the English Sporting Rifle style. Aside from the Jim Chambers "English Gentleman's Sporting Rifle, Model RK-12" does anyone have a suggestion.? I am looking for a working rifle, so probably without all the embellishment. Just a single trigger, shotgun style butt - like the old T/C Pennsylvania hunter.
I am considering the Pedersoli Mortimer, but I want something shorter and lighter.

Any suggestions?

Have the barrel and underrib cut back a little.
Remove that patent breech and have that undersized powder chamber opened up too while you are at. Send it to Bobby Hoyt for the work.
If I ever get an Italian Mortimer that’s what I’ll do.

 

[smoothshooter]

Build one and you can get exactly what you want.

Can’t speak from experience, but I am told that English style half-stock rifles are not projects for beginners. Lots of subtleties in fitting the parts the way they are supposed to be fitted if we are talking percussion with patent breech.