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Billhuntz

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I've done a bunch of searches here and can't find an answer......I know this has been asked a million times

If a guy has a 38" barreled .50 flintlock he plans to hunt deer with, where should he start to work up a load. I guess I'm asking what your opinions of a minimum charge for deer would be. I'll be shooting a PRB.
 
Thanks,

That's about where I was hoping to end up. I figured to start at 70 and go up from there.

Oh and I'll be shooting 2f.
 
I agree.

I use 82 gr FFg in my .50 (that is the third click on my T/C brass adjustable measure and I have made bone measures that hold the same volume). It's a very conservative and accurate load and performs well. It will go all the way through a whitetail.
 
I think that will be agood starting load. If necessary you can go up to 120 grs FFFg with a PRB. I use 90 grs of WANO PPP in my .50 Investarm Hawken Hunter.
 
If you use a load of about 80 grains of Goex FFg powder under that PRB, you should be able to shoot right through both sides of a deer, leaving a massive primary wound channel, out to 100 yds. That is a very long shot on deer, for most places where you find them. Wind drift becomes a problem for taking shots longer than that, as well as trajectory, which drops off rather quickly after 125 yds or so. Better to pass on such shots, than to try to guess, and risk only wounding or crippling a deer. If the deer is worth shooting, its worth respecting it enough not to cripple it. At 11.5 grains per cubic inch, your barrel will only efficiently burn a maximum of 85.8 grains of powder under a PRB, so there is no need to consider using more powder. You can load more, but it will either provide a nice burning flash outside the muzzle, or fall to the grouns unburned. It will contribute more recoil to the load, and if your hawken has the standard hooked buttplate, your upper arm will surely feel That. at 80 grains, that ball should be traveling out the muzzle at over 1600 fps, which is a pretty good speed. Some books list the velocity much higher than that.
 
you are the first person that has said about too much powder. i don't use the math. like you do i just start at a low load and work up till i see unbruned powder then back off 5gr. best done over fresh snow or white butcher paper layed on the ground.
 
How does unburned powder...blackpowder at that which is nortorious for it's low ignition temperature...survive the 3 foot sheet of flame of the muzzle blast and fall out of that to the ground without igniting/burning?
Have you taken the kernels off that sheet you mentioned and tried to ignite them?
Do you think it might be particles of black fouling and not particles of black powder?
 
Since the powder burns from the back to the front in a flintlock, the unburned powder is pushed out of the muzzle, and drops down below that flash before it can be burned. I thought it was powder residue the first time I found some on my ground cloth, but we carefully folded the cloth, and poured the particles into a small bowl. My friend, who is a chain smoker, pulled out his lighter, and touched the stuff, and we both got a shock to find out it was UNburned powder, Roundball! We both jumped back as it went, " Puff !"
 
Being somewhat new to this my question is.. I've been using 100g of 2f BP behind a 54cal roundball. I see all these sparks flying out the barrel and thought it could start a forest fire. Cool to look at with all the smoke and all. But, could this be because I'm loading to heavy? When I first shot this gun I had some leftover 3f APP. Didn't notice all the sparks with 80g's of that. I thought it was a blackpowder thing. I've never shot the real stuff till this year and have never been around anyone else to watch them.
 
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