Historic Qusetion

[Bartek]

I tell You something interesting
My profession is archaeology. Four or fife years ago i have made some excavation in central Poland, close by little town Kleszczow. In this town i have found people, who spoken some strange dialekt, sounding in my ears like czech They live in separate part of the town and are all Lutherans in contrast to "real" Polish, who are Catholics. These people are descendants of Hussites, who abandoned their motherland in XV, after defeat of hussitism (1437). They convertet later to Lutheranism to keep their individuality from local community :imo:
One of them - bishop Josef Tranda (it is czech name, not polish) is at present the head of Lutheran Church in Poland :front:.

 

[Light Dragoon]

I tell You something interesting
My profession is archaeology. Four or fife years ago i have made some excavation in central Poland, close by little town Kleszczow. In this town i have found people, who spoken some strange dialekt, sounding in my ears like czech They live in separate part of the town and are all Lutherans in contrast to "real" Polish, who are Catholics. These people are descendants of Hussites, who abandoned their motherland in XV, after defeat of hussitism (1437). They convertet later to Lutheranism to keep their individuality from local community :imo:
One of them - bishop Josef Tranda (it is czech name, not polish) is at present the head of Lutheran Church in Poland :front:.

THAT is interesting! I had thought that A.) the Hussites were more-or-less allowed to continue to practice by the Catholic Church in Bohemia as a case of "We can't beat them, so we'll ignore them", and B.) that Lutheranism (along with Calvinism) was pretty much eradicated in Poland by the Jesuits in the 16th/17th Centuries. Interesting news though! Thanks for that bit of information :hatsoff:

Cheers,

Gordon

 

[Bartek]

People in Bohemia had and have traditional hostility for Catholic Church, because most of priesthood was Germans in middle ages. So in Bohemia Catholic Church never had a real power. It is very funny, because in Poland the situation was exactly reverse The Catholic Church was always the fortress of polish national identity. In XVIII and XIX, when we were enslaved, Lutheranism (and Protestantism generally) was the government religion of Prussia. For example in my town, Poznan, the biggest church from this time is the neo-gothic lutheran church (present catholic), builden to accent the Germanic power under Polish. We have local community of Lutherans in Poznan, founded in 1562, and they are very deserved for our town. They were ever polish patriots. The head of local lutheran church and meny lutheran priests in Poznan were murdered by nazis in 1939, because they refused collaboration with them. Nazis have expected, that polish Protestants will active support them as descendants of Germans.

 

[benvenuto]

very informative -thankyou!

 

[Bartek]

I have found finally a picture :redface: This is one of hussite four-barrel gonnes:

Note please, there are 3 iron rings around barrels. These iron rings direct on the barrel (not binding the barrel with the stock) were typical for this part of Europe. Even simple gonnes had them around the singe barrel.

 

[PedroB]

The answer is yes.
There is a famous one built for Charles when he was emperor.
Here is the link to the photo, it's a gorgeous piece!

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/08/euwc/ho_14.25.1425.htm

And this was not the only example either. There is one rifle with two locks and two charges but only one barrel!
They tried all kinds of wacky stuff back then.

 

[benvenuto]

just found a photo of a halbard with two wheellock pistols attached, (one on either side of the blade) also in James Lavins book, there is a lance with two miqueletes attached.
I have seen a lot of superimposed load matchlocks and handgonnes, but never any double barreled ones... YET