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Hi
I'm interested in making the various patch lubes talked about here.They sound great.I don't know of a good source for bee's wax locally,other than a candle shop. Where can this be found at reasonable prices? I don't mind ordering.You have to get used to that with this hobby. n.h.schmidt
 
A few recomendations:

1) Just buy the beeswax.. it's expensive but with the recent Bee disease problem it's likely to get worse.

2) Buy your own measuring spoons/cups, stirring spoons, 2qt sauce pan to put your water and coffee can in to melt stuff etc. DON'T use your wife's.. (In case she comes home before you get everything cleaned up).

3) Get everything cleaned up before your wife gets[url] home...grin[/url]

4) Have fun. I've made many of the recipes I've found on this forum. They all seem to have their good points (Danged if a moose is'nt usefull for more than I ever thought).

5) Try a "Farm Supply" store or your local vet for things like castor oil and 90% alcohol it's fantastically cheaper than at a pharmacy.
 
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Forgive me for asking but Why? Man there are so many great products on the market I have to wonder if your board or Am I missing somthing?
 
stump.58 said:
Forgive me for asking but Why? Man there are so many great products on the market I have to wonder if your board or Am I missing somthing?

There's just something about making stuff yourself. I can't build my own guns but I can cast my own bullets and make my own lubes. :thumbsup:
 
I bet you will someday make your own gun. I started out making this and that. One day just decided enough thinking and time to do it. About done with my 2ed and have some parts for the next one.
 
Oh well it kind of adds to somthing whenever you make somthing. There is a feeling of satisfaction to it when you punch one big ragged hole in paper using your own made lube and your own cast RBs
Ditto on the buy bees wax now. The bee keeper I get wax from lost almost 200 hives this year. There is trouble with honey bees, they are vanishing and no one seems to know why. Less bees=less honey and less wax.
 
schmidt,
Just another outlet for on line beeswax[url] www.stakich.com[/url].
snake-eyes
 
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You're right. It's fun to make stuff yourself, especially when it's easy and works as well.

I'm tinkering right now with a lube that really shows promise- tallow from my buck last year and olive oil.

Half and half melted together produces a paste that's just about like vaseline in texture at room temperature, but it goes instantly soft with the heat of your hand. When warm it really saturates patches quick and easy. I store them in a snuff tin to cut down on mess away from the range.

My next trial will be two parts tallow to one part olive oil, to see if I can't come up with something that's a little stiffer, even when I handle it.

Who knows?

So far I've got a quarter cup of olive oil invested in it. If I could find a natural source of oil, I'd do away with the olive oil. Come to think of it, seal oil will very likely to work.

Now I'm down to zero investment while using all local materials for my lube. If I could just find a tree that grows pillow ticking, I'd be all set.
 
stump58,
If you hang on and read enough you will find the answer.We can't all build a rifle,bag,knife or sheath.But even myself
can experiment with lubes,patches and loads.
I thought the same as you in my early
years of B/P shooting.....Buy whatever is offered by the distributors, weather it be DGW or TOTW,etc.
Let me just say the more you read here
and elsewhere the more fun you will have with
a great sport.
snake-eyes:hmm:
 
My venison tallow and beeswax is simple, cheap, and functional.

You city boys that live just up the street from the big sporting goods store dont realize where some of us live. My closest Walmart is 95 miles. We have to drive 100 miles once a month for groceries. Yeah, yeah, all up hill and barefoot too.

When you get stuck out in the middle of nowhere, then you become more self sufficient. Our fuel here is twenty cents a gallon more than it is down on I-40, so everything is a factor. My homemade lube gets the job done. That's all I ask of it.
 
stump.58 said:
Forgive me for asking but Why? Man there are so many great products on the market I have to wonder if your board or Am I missing somthing?

It's like tying your own flies for fishing, baking an apple pie instead of buying Mrs. Smith's, casting your own round balls, tapering and fletching your own arrows, wiping your own . . . nose. Gets you more involved with the process.

Gives you a little control, too. One less thing to have to rely on that may disappear from local shelves. Like #11 percussion caps, black powder, round balls, sidelock muzzleloaders, etc. I can't buy any of those things locally anymore. :(
 
With the new fly lines you don't need dressing any more. Ain't teknolegy great??? (xsept in ML-- we stil like all the old ways). By the way I am building new modern graphite materials fly rods for my Grandson and his Mom for christmas. (I hate the XMAS acronem, don't you all?) :v
 
I see what your all sayin I tie My own flies and such. but its more cause I cant see spending 2 bucks for some feathers and a hook LOL. Good luck with the lube
 
I have finally got down to the bench work on a rifle I finished about 4 years ago. I used the same load as my Ol' Sadie .58 Hawken to start with. I ran out of patches that I used in Ol' Sadie and prepared a bunch with Crisco. I shot up all the patches with Crisco and changed targets. Using the same load and using spit for lube, I immediately cut the group down considerably. Evidently the rifle does not like Crisco for lube.

Today I am going out again and I am going to try the same load but use Olive Oil and another batch with bear oil.

Ain't 'sperimenting at the range fun? :)
 

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