How Do I "KNOW" which style my muzzleloader is?

[deand]

Okay...laugh if you want, but I'm not sure how to "know for sure" (I'm thinking about barrel twist here) which style my .54 CVA Kit Rifle is. I remember the box (this was quite a while ago) said "Big Bore" on it...and I "THINK" it was a Mountain Rifle, but after visiting the site and looking at the pic of a Mtn Rifle, I'm not so sure... :shocked2:

Is there a way by serial number ID or something?

Thanks

Dean

 

[gordy]

If Your only conserned as to what twist the rifleing is,just put the loading rod downbore ,mark a dot on one side and slowly extract it till the dot rotates 360 degrees,then measure the distance from the muzzle to the dot.This will give You a pretty close reading.If its a slow twist like 1;66 or 1;72 You'll need to do a little math.If it makes a 1/4thh turn in a foot it would be a full turn in 48" or 1;48 twist,Etc.Hope this helps. :thumbsup:

 

[Rebel]

If the barrel is 32" long and it is an older kit, it is most likely a Mountain Rifle with a 1-66" twist. Great shooting guns.

 

[Norskie]

deand,
If I understand this, you want to figure out what twist you have?
Try this: mark your ramrod (piece of masking tape and a pencil mark will do just fine) put a patch on your jag that's tight enough to grab the rifling. Now run it down the barrel and measure how many inches of travel it takes to do a quarter turn. Multiply that by 4 and you have your twist. Eg: 16.5 inches per quarter turn gives you 1 in 66"

 

[Norskie]

Gordy,
See? great minds think alike. But some of type slower!

 

[hobbles]

If Your only conserned as to what twist the rifleing is,just put the loading rod downbore ,mark a dot on one side and slowly extract it till the dot rotates 360 degrees,then measure the distance from the muzzle to the dot.This will give You a pretty close reading.If its a slow twist like 1;66 or 1;72 You'll need to do a little math.If it makes a 1/4thh turn in a foot it would be a full turn in 48" or 1;48 twist,Etc.Hope this helps. :thumbsup:

Afternoon gordy

I'll be darned,, that works,,,,,

 

[Zonie]

Now that you've figured out the twist, the CVA Mountain Rifle has two barrel keys instead of one.

 

[hobbles]

Now that you've figured out the twist, the CVA Mountain Rifle has two barrel keys instead of one.

Afternoon Zonie
I a feared to ask,,,, 2 barrel keys makes a different??

 

[Rebel]

The mountain rifle had 2 wedges, like the GPR does. The CVA Hawken only had 1 like a T/C Hawken. Also, the Mountain rifle didn't have brass furniture like the Hawken. It had a pewter nose cap, and all steel funiture. And the ones with a patchbox were German silver pachboxes.

 

[Pork Chop]

I believe that the last production Mountain Rifles had a blued steel patch box...

 

[Rebel]

Could be, the 3 i had all had the German silver ones.

 

[Pork Chop]

Another thread had a link to the old CVA sidelock page on their site. The photo of the latest production Mountain Rifle has the blued patch box. I know nothing about it other than the photo and the text. My Mountain Rifle is an old one with a MADE IN USA barrel. Anyway, here is the link:
[url] http://www.cva.com/products/sidelocks_mtn.htm[/url]

 

[Rebel]

Thanks, i've seen the new production ones. They should have kept the 1-66" twist.

 

[MikeChapin]

As I remember, the Big Bore Mountain Rifles did not have a patchbox. My Mountain Rifle had a german silver patchbox and escution plates.

 

[deand]

You guys are great!

You're right. It's a Mountain Rifle. Deduced this from all the descriptions.

2 barrel wedges, no patchbox and 1:66 twist. I love that formula to figure the twist. Thanks for that.

Dean