off and on about 15yrs, after i got married my wife bought me a traditions ML in a pawnshop. i don't remember the model, but it was a cheapie, i think it was $50. i hunted a few year's with it, but the unseasonably warm weather around here got the best of me so i gave it up, and sold my ML. but i bought a T/C Hawken 8 year's ago, and been back at it ever since. and i've added a few more to collection, but i'm done buyin' now, just gona enjoy what i have.