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a quarer pound round ball...? What caliber or guage if you will is a 1,750 GRAIN BALL anyway???
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wow...
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Guys: I guess you have to be there. This gun is a tank. Fifty grains T7 and a patched .600 RB feels about like shooting a .44 Special in a Ruger Super Blackhawk. P-phuuuuut. The bore rises about two inches in recoil. Trust me. I am not a nut. I am very conservative about loads. A recommendation of 25 grains in this gun would be like recommending no more than 60 grains in a .54 Lyman GPR. I smell a lawyer!
oletymepreacher
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The Pedersoli website has loads listed for their firearms, with minimum and maximum loads. It is very helpful for developing loads. Loads listed in catalogs are primarily minimum load recommendations.
Bill---I'm not saying you aren't doing it or can't do it, I am just saying I am "astonished". Truly. I have shot quote a few guns in my life (father taught us to shoot as young kids, USMC vet, etc., etc, etc) and actually kinda like recoil. But I have never come close to 70 grains of black AND a .600 solid round ball in a pistol. That is all I am saying.
Oh, and on the quarter pound round ball question from above--My blunderbuss is a true 4 bore. 1.025" diameter! yes it is a total hoot to shoot!
I highly recommend it for stress relief and a general good laugh.
Oh, and on the quarter pound round ball question from above--My blunderbuss is a true 4 bore. 1.025" diameter! yes it is a total hoot to shoot!
I highly recommend it for stress relief and a general good laugh.
BillinOregon
Just for the record, the .69 caliber U.S. Musket in was loaded with 70-77 grains of powder.
The Gunmakers Company and the Guardians of the Birmingham Proof House Under the authority of the Gun Barrel Proof Act, 1868 gives a powder load for the 20 guage smoothbore shotgun as 68 grains.
Why anyone would want to load a pistol with loads like that is beyond me but hey, it's your gun. Do as you wish but, don't complain when the stock cracks.
Just for the record, the .69 caliber U.S. Musket in was loaded with 70-77 grains of powder.
The Gunmakers Company and the Guardians of the Birmingham Proof House Under the authority of the Gun Barrel Proof Act, 1868 gives a powder load for the 20 guage smoothbore shotgun as 68 grains.
Why anyone would want to load a pistol with loads like that is beyond me but hey, it's your gun. Do as you wish but, don't complain when the stock cracks.
poordevil
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I may be wrong, but I believe the US musket load was 130 gr for the flintlock and 110-120 for percussion.
I agree that a handgun will buck and roar with a stout load, but 25gr under a 20ga ball or load of shot is on the light side.
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I agree that a handgun will buck and roar with a stout load, but 25gr under a 20ga ball or load of shot is on the light side.
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Zonie: Wish you could handle the gun. I think you would say, "Oh. Of course."
Jumpshot
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Just thought I'd throw in my two pence here. My Howdah pistols like 30 grains Goex with a patched .610" ball, but I've taken them up to 60 grains. I've also gone up to 1 1/8 oz. shot with an equal amount of powder.
Now before everyone calls me a nut and takes aim at me, I don't do this all the time. In fact, it was only when my Howdahs were new and I was "learnin' 'em." I didn't try these loads because I wanted to 'push the envelope' or because I wanted to make an awesome youtube video. I simply wanted to see what sort of accuracy I would get and how manageable the recoil would be with heavy loads, and thus determine what would be the practical limit. The accuracy was nothing to write home about (much better with 30 grains) and the recoil was manageable, but not pleasant. So I got my answers.
The point is, I was just testing performance at different levels, and the wood didn't crack, my hand didn't break, I still have all my fingers, and the recoil didn't flip the pistol over and pound me on top of the head and drive me into the ground like a fence post.
If that's what I was trying to do, I would've used 100 grains. :grin:
Now before everyone calls me a nut and takes aim at me, I don't do this all the time. In fact, it was only when my Howdahs were new and I was "learnin' 'em." I didn't try these loads because I wanted to 'push the envelope' or because I wanted to make an awesome youtube video. I simply wanted to see what sort of accuracy I would get and how manageable the recoil would be with heavy loads, and thus determine what would be the practical limit. The accuracy was nothing to write home about (much better with 30 grains) and the recoil was manageable, but not pleasant. So I got my answers.
The point is, I was just testing performance at different levels, and the wood didn't crack, my hand didn't break, I still have all my fingers, and the recoil didn't flip the pistol over and pound me on top of the head and drive me into the ground like a fence post.
If that's what I was trying to do, I would've used 100 grains. :grin:
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I have settled with a 40gr load with the rb in my 20ga Howdah. I tried some 50gr and wasn't hitting a damn thing, 60 would be a stout load. The recoil is not that bad at all. If you want to try 100grs I'll film it...........from behind.
It is more than ample for tiger with 25 grains. of powder!
You beat the crap out of the tiger, with the Howdah pistol, as he is trying to get in the basket with you......thhen you turn the double loaded pistol on yourself, before the tiger gets serious.
And that's the way I look at it!
Old Ford
You beat the crap out of the tiger, with the Howdah pistol, as he is trying to get in the basket with you......thhen you turn the double loaded pistol on yourself, before the tiger gets serious.
And that's the way I look at it!
Old Ford
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