I caught MOUNTAIN MEN

[tg]

I have never understood the putting down of all the films that atre not PC/HC...all films.. it is interesting after watching a few times to pick out the errors, but no one ever claimed they were making documentraries and even those (History Channels "The Mt Men") are likely to have errors, movies are just for entertainment not research as far as I can see and not advertized as anything else.At times it seems like it would not have taken much to do a bit better but they is what they is.

 

[luieb45]

It would be harder to name everything that was wrong. I just watched it to for the first time, and wasn't too impressed.

Cmon..mooning and giving the finger in that era?

I think the most historically accurate movie was Chris Farley's "Almost Heroes". Believe it or not the guns looked all ok in that movie.

 

[Pete Gaimari]

Plus, it was funny.

 

[Emet Huntsman]

I seem to recall Heston's son who is/was involved in buckskinning bought the script and produced the movie. Tribute to his dad is what I was told.

 

[Pete Gaimari]

It's on a couple of times a day now. Maybe i'll watch it again with a new attitude.

I'll turn on my corny entertainment switch.

 

[Marc Adamchek]

Well, it's April 26th and I'm watching MOUNTAIN MEN again, this time from beginning to end.

I agree with whoever said it's good to see Muzzleloaders in a movie. That's part of the mysterious draw this bad movie has on me. I mean, I've seen it WELL over a dozen times, and here I am, watching again - and GLAD that I was able to catch it from the beginning! Guess that shows how starved we are for some bucksinning flick.

I can't help but think that SO MANY people started the whole HAWKEN/ Mountain Man revival around this time (1980). TC Hawken was king, the Rendevous' were prolly like the one in the movie,. glorified acts of show off barbarism by folks who never picked up a book and were all called "Griz". Chrome leather was status quo, and all kinds of "Indian lore" came into being.

I live in western Massachusetts, and there are A LOT of French Canadian folks who live in a 50 mile radius of here. I'll bet you when they got a taste of blackpowder they started claiming all kinds of family connections to Canadian tribes. I've seen this myself. An old friend of my wife's claims she's more flathead than French, and I don't even think they were IN Canada, were they? Of course all the trappings: "Dreamcatchers" hanging from the truck mirror, sweatshirts with wolves painted on them etc etc.

Most of the Indians in this movie look Italian, to tell you the truth!

So when did the pendulum swing to the Eastern Indian/Colonial/Longhunter era? It seems now that the old western Mountain man ethic is long gone, at least here in New England, and that's probably how it should be. Live local/buy local/reenact local/study local history! God knows there's plenty of it around here.

So has chrome orange buckskin finally been purged from the western movement? I'm actually thinking of reviving a 5 year old dream and gettin some brain tanned breeches and/or shirt. Apparently the breeches were used quite a bit around these parts.

Watching this movie one thing stgands out: The Wester Fur Trade was a damn sight different than the colonial period here back east. Nothingwas easy anywhere for the white settlers, but Goddam the west was tough stuff! MAN! Hats off to even the modern day buckskinners out west, it sure is a sight different - You still got LOTSA Mountains and wild forests running forever in all directions! Really test yer nerve, eh?

WOW, look at me runnin off at the mouth, I'm in for a MAJOR flame job, that's for sure! Oh well, why not, it'll pick up some lively posts and threads, hopefully!

Watch yer topknot WAARRGGHH!!!!

 

[Pete Gaimari]

Well, it was better this time, because I knew what to expect. It does give me the urge to grab my stuff and go camp in the mountains.

What part of Mass are you from? I was born and brought up in Springfield. Had to shoot shotgun slugs growing up.

 

[Klaus]

i viewed the Mountain Men yesterday evening for i don`t know how often but i feel it is an enjoyable movie with all his mistakes in historical correctness... so yesterday i pay some attention on the last fight between the Blackfeet and Bill and Henry on the sandbank. I`m curious about what kind of Fullstock Flintlock are Bill using so i changed on slow motion to have a look.
In Slow Motion you can see clearly that Bill pinch both eyes before he pulled the trigger ... :hmm: After they take the first shoots against the Blackfeet they reload their Rifles.. poor powder in the Muuzzle and take somewhat in their mouth and spit out ? I don`t know what ... the RR follow and the holy ghost only knows if a RB and patch followed the powder before... :hmm:
by the way, does anyone here knows what kind of Rifle Bill is using ..
Cheers Klaus

 

[poordevil]

Those guns were on display at the NRA convention at Phoenix AZ a year ago. They looked like short Italian repos. With brass tacks. Nothing fantastic, but OK just the same.

 

[Klaus]

exist there any pics about it ?

i know that the Hawken style are made by investarms and / or thompson center but my interrest are on the Fullstock Flintlock wich Bill is using ....

Klaus

 

[Micah Clark]

Hey gang, I just saw this item on the movie Mountain Men. Since there are few too few movies about trappers and Mountain Men and since Jer. Johnson is one of my favorite movies, I bought the DVD a while back at Dollar General. I like Brian Keith and Charlton Heston (a lot more than I like Redford) . . . but the movie was a real disappointment. What turned me off, was the dialogue sounded like it was written today for an early 1800's era movie . . and the profanity was flying way too much. It could have been a better movie . . . and what really hurt it for me the most was so unnecessary. . .that's why I say I was disappointed.
By the way, as a child I saw a trapper movie called "Across the Wide Missouri" with Clark Gable and Spencer Tracy and liked it. . but all I remember is an Indian jumping a log and Gable in the middle of loading and shooting the ramrod into the middle of the Indian. . . unfortunately, that movie isn't on DVD, but I'd like to see it again some time.

 

[Pigman]

Try Amazon or Netflix.

Foster From Flint

 

[Snow on the Roof]

That "Indian" who took the ramrod into the chest was Recardo Maltoban {sp?} as in "...de plane Boss, de plane!? It is fun picking apart period films pointing out their histoical faults. The classic Custer, Little Big Horn flick with the native americans using 1894 Winchesters :rotf: for example. However good Fur Trade, Colonial era movies are so rare I do enjoy any attempt at accuracy.

Snow

 

[poordevil]

http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=...oviesbooks.com/_Across_The_Wide_Missouri.html

 

[Snow on the Roof]

Boy did I butcher that spelling... :surrender: Now you know why it took me 8 years to get a 4 year BA degree....not the sharpest knife.

Snow

 

[Tony Logan]

My father took me to see it when I was maybe 11-12 years old. He then bought me a TC Seneca in 45 caliber , Heck I have wanted to be a Mountain Man every since, I was very impressionable. I was instructed not to use the language I heard in the movie at school because I was not a Mountain Man yet. I was able to hunt with my Dad on some of the early very popular black powder special quota hunts in Tennessee in the early 80s. Lots of hunters, lots of shooting, lots of success, tons of fun. I miss those times, our TN national wildlife refuges have a primitive weapons only hunt in early Oct, no scopes or inlines,fixed sights, 3 deer- 1 can be antlered,all bonus deer, I went on that hunt last year shot a doe and saw maybe 6-7 vehicles, no hunters. No one has a primitive weapon around here anymore. Maybe its time for another movie with primitive weapons to get people excited again no matter how pc or hc it is. MM sure got me and a lot of others excited.

 

[longbow-hunter]

I just replaced my VHS copy with a DVD that I found at Wally-world for $5.00. Not bad at all. Great movie.

 

[Dausener]

I think it's a GREAT movie! :blah: Yeah it could have been more HC I guess but I don't think it was there goal at the time. It's fun to watch and has some awsome scenery. :v

 

[Bill/Ms.]

The flintlock he used in the second half of the movie was a GRRW Leman trade rifle.
Be Well,
Bill

 

[wahunterinrok]

It's always been one of my favorite movies from when I was a youngin'. Always know that it wasn't to accurate, but always enjoyed it. The language isnt the best but I kinda think that night be part that is accurate.. Except for Jed Smith, trappers weren't know for having a clean mouth.